Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
M&M 2nd Edition: Underwhelmed?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Donovan Morningfire" data-source="post: 2780172" data-attributes="member: 39532"><p>I'll confess to being very leery at first about a new edition of Mutants & Masterminds, especially given some of the previews on fan site. But now having the book, I'll now confess to being a fan of the revisions. The biggest change I was worried about was divorcing Strength and Dexterity from their respective combat scores, but I can understand the logic as it puts those two ability scores on a more even footing with the other four, and allows for the super-tough guy that has no clue how to land a punch.</p><p></p><p>While having power creation rules would have been a nice addition, I'm not missing as every concept I've been able to think of so far I've been able to stat up, including the DCAU versions of the Justice League, and able to do so without anyone's Power Level getting to ridiculous heights (namely Superman and Batman), and without too much "fudging" in terms of powers (sole exception being Supes having Improved Initiative as an extra of Quickness; net saving in terms of points equaling zip).</p><p></p><p>As for the repeated "Blast" theme powers, I see those more as being there to give new players ideas to set up power themes via Alternate Powers, so I can forgive them that trespass.</p><p></p><p>I guess maybe the highest mark of praise for M&M2e is that a friend of mine, who is a dyed-in-the-wool Champions/Hero System advocate since the days of 1st edition, and loudly criticized every other superhero RPG out on the market (including M&M1e), borrowed my copy of 2nd edition, read through it, and went out to buy his own copy, and is now planning a M&M campaign, and is working on converting a lot of the background NPCs and villains from his old Hero System campaigns to M&M2e for use in the new campaign. I guess if Mikey likes it, Green Ronin did something right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Donovan Morningfire, post: 2780172, member: 39532"] I'll confess to being very leery at first about a new edition of Mutants & Masterminds, especially given some of the previews on fan site. But now having the book, I'll now confess to being a fan of the revisions. The biggest change I was worried about was divorcing Strength and Dexterity from their respective combat scores, but I can understand the logic as it puts those two ability scores on a more even footing with the other four, and allows for the super-tough guy that has no clue how to land a punch. While having power creation rules would have been a nice addition, I'm not missing as every concept I've been able to think of so far I've been able to stat up, including the DCAU versions of the Justice League, and able to do so without anyone's Power Level getting to ridiculous heights (namely Superman and Batman), and without too much "fudging" in terms of powers (sole exception being Supes having Improved Initiative as an extra of Quickness; net saving in terms of points equaling zip). As for the repeated "Blast" theme powers, I see those more as being there to give new players ideas to set up power themes via Alternate Powers, so I can forgive them that trespass. I guess maybe the highest mark of praise for M&M2e is that a friend of mine, who is a dyed-in-the-wool Champions/Hero System advocate since the days of 1st edition, and loudly criticized every other superhero RPG out on the market (including M&M1e), borrowed my copy of 2nd edition, read through it, and went out to buy his own copy, and is now planning a M&M campaign, and is working on converting a lot of the background NPCs and villains from his old Hero System campaigns to M&M2e for use in the new campaign. I guess if Mikey likes it, Green Ronin did something right. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
M&M 2nd Edition: Underwhelmed?
Top