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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThoughtBubble" data-source="post: 1753014" data-attributes="member: 9723">Well, seeing as my only expierence with M&M is a non-houseruled (at least no intentional ones) first printing test run game with no eratta, I may not be the best person to talk. Howerver, I'm still going to throw in my two cents.For the most part, I think the second push really just cut through the fun. Leaving things at the first set of antagonists would have given you a fairly satisfactory adventure with a few quirks.Anyway, Bricks are fairly tough cookies to deal with in conventional matters, which, unfortunately, it seems like your party's solution to bricks is a lot like my group's solution. "Punching him in the head worked one out of five times? Keep punching. He'll go down eventually." Myself, I'd prefer it if they tried to, you know, utilize his weaknesses or something, rather than attacking him at his strong point, but they're players, and sometimes they do that.My first reccomendation is to not max out your villians. If you do so, your characters will do so too.  If you max out a higher PL opponent, he can be pretty much untouchable (as you already know). Also, avoid having more than one brick enemy at a time. If you don't have the resources to easily take a brick, more than one is a large amount of work. IF you do, then it's not much more than one. Keep them for packs of trouble.Aside from that, find out how/what your unhappy players would like out of the game (mid-powered flying mooks with guns would be my guess) and how to get them to shine.Ultimately, if they hit a wall, and looked for ways to get around it. And that's a good sign. What you need to do is find out how to play to the strengths of the remaining characters. And hook the players back in.By the way, I thought penetrating attack was applied to damage saves as well.Anyway, best of luck if you'd like to continue playing, and watch out for psychics decimating the party or intangibles being frusterating.</blockquote>

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