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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Terramotus" data-source="post: 3906063" data-attributes="member: 7220">Ok, I didn't read closely enough on the device.  I assumed that it was just allowed Powers to be purchased like Alternate Form.  That works.I was aware of that, but it doesn't address the issue of base attacks, defense, and saves.  It says  "extraordinary" abilities are lost, but how much of the base attack bonus is extraordinary?  I can't find anywhere that normal human max is ever defined.I've been reading through the Mastermind's Manual, and I think a few rules from there and a little bit of house ruling can fix all of this.  It keeps the system from messing with my brain too much.The Super Abilities rule from the Mastermind's Manual is a must, which means that any stat over a certain GM-specified total (20) must be bought in the form of the Enhanced Ability Power.  I would personally prohibit any changes to the normal stats after character creation as well, which could lead to a potential situation where a strong hero has less than the maximum possible strength if his base body wasn't human maximum.  I consider this a good thing, although I might consider allowing a player to put more points here, up to a final max of 24, over time to represent the character truly becoming the best in the world.Next, the distinction needs to be made between skill and super-poweredness.  Any base bonuses to base attack bonus, defense, and saves greater than the character's relevant normal stat are considered to be extraordianry powers.  For simplicity purposes, the highest of Strength or Dexterity can be used.The more complicated method of achieving this, which I think I prefer, is one that caps base Attack, Defense, and Save bonuses at the relevant stat's bonus, and then adding Enhanced Attack, Defense, and Save Powers, which can be purchased at the same rate as normal.  This would allow Alternate Form to boost combat abilities and preserve the existing balance of the system, while providing a rationale for how everything relates.The optional rule in the Mastermind's Manual where Attack Focus, Attack Specialization, and Dodge Focus feats all are all capped at the relevant stat bonus should also be used.  If a hard cap is used on the base bonuses, this would be calculated separately, but still subject to the normal Power Level limits.</blockquote>

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