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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Denaes" data-source="post: 2664374" data-attributes="member: 33738">Look, I like the Damage Save. It's fun. But thats as a player. I don't know how well I'd like it in a non-campy non-lethal game. The chance that PCs could die in a blow would worry me (hero points or no). The group I play with has tried the Damage Save and dislikes it... intensely. I think the reason why is a little silly, but that's not here nor there. I'm also a little frustrated at the reason why my friend rejects M&M2e so irrationally - because they didn't print the half page of text he has in two other books. Thats silly. It doesn't effect him on any level. I can only assume it effected him on some moral level. Thats the reason I posted this. I was frustrated at hearing him bitch all night to different people and basically talk smack about the game that he spent like 15 minutes looking at saying "It's the same book, nothing has changed except they took out the HP's and other options!"Also it's our right to wonder where the HP are. It's something that was in M&M1e and isn't in M&M2e. Thats reason for someone who's purchased both games to gripe about if they expected it to be there. It's not in the least like anyone is complaining that they didn't add a Damage Save option with the 3.5 D&D Core Books (I know they added something similar in the options book). It was never there before and you had no reason to expect it mysteriously poping up in 3.5.It's not like people are stunned that BESM d20's point buy system isn't in M&M. Why would it be?An option for HPs was included in M&M and for whatever reason they left it out (to put in another book, because HPs suck, because DS is successful and they don't need a backup option) it doesn't matter. What matters is that it was in M&M1e and it's not in M&M2e.There really isn't anything to be gained by telling me that my group should embrace Damage Saves because they're good or that HPs didn't exist in 1e (!?). I've vented my piece about my friend and what little I cared about GR leaving things out of 2e, which was the point of me making this thread... that and me hoping that there was an online HP conversion for 2e that would shut my friend up about it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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