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<blockquote data-quote="Fredrik Svanberg" data-source="post: 4340373" data-attributes="member: 12996"><p>I imagine this whole thread to be a huge spoiler so I won't bother using spoiler tags much. Anyway, I've started working on converting this and decided to put up a thread for discussion and brainstorming. There is a difference in encounter philosophy between 4e and 3e which comes up quite often in this adventure.</p><p></p><p>I also think there is a slight lack of actual combat and maybe too much "other" content. Some players (ok, one player) in my group didn't like the heavy politics in Shelter From the Storm and requested more combat. I tried to remedy it by making up more encounters but I haven't had time to DM since then so I don't know if I've succeeded yet. Maybe 4e will be different because even fighters will be able to do stuff outside of combat and don't have to feel like they can't contribute in a skill challenge for example.</p><p></p><p>Anyway - on with the conversion discussion.</p><p></p><p><strong>Act 1 - Message for the King</strong></p><p></p><p><em>The Trip To Bresk</em></p><p></p><p>Late Refugees: I've made a remorhaz conversion as a solo creature to suit this encounter. It will probably do well as an end-of-session fight after a long and slow introduction. <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=233283" target="_blank">Remorhaz!</a></p><p></p><p>Police Brutality: I have also made Steppengard soldiers and a commander. I'll post them in this thread later. Like the remorhaz I based their level on my own campaign where the characters are at the moment level 5 and will reach level 7 during this adventure. The conversion guide would indicate a higher level and I'm more and more inclined to go along with it since it would save me work if I didn't have to convert everything twice... So I'll probably post higher-level versions later.</p><p></p><p><em>The Capital of Bresk</em></p><p>I couldn't really come up with good skill challenges to replace the systems described in this chapter to handle the audience with the king, so I decided to just use the rules given in the adventure.</p><p></p><p><em>The First Rule of Assassination</em></p><p>Silencing Balan: I have converted Pixis although I'm not really sure if my version is that good. I will post that too later in the thread.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Skipping ahead a bit:</strong></p><p>My first real problem is the criosphinxes. Sphinxes in 4e aren't natural beings anymore, they are immortal angels given the form of winged lions to serve as guardians. The way the adventure describes the relationship between the criosphinxes and the gynosphinx doesn't seem to work when they aren't natural beings anymore. I don't think angels compete for mating rights, after all.</p><p></p><p>I've been looking for something to replace the criosphinxes and perhaps the gynosphinx too but I haven't found anything that works. Any ideas?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fredrik Svanberg, post: 4340373, member: 12996"] I imagine this whole thread to be a huge spoiler so I won't bother using spoiler tags much. Anyway, I've started working on converting this and decided to put up a thread for discussion and brainstorming. There is a difference in encounter philosophy between 4e and 3e which comes up quite often in this adventure. I also think there is a slight lack of actual combat and maybe too much "other" content. Some players (ok, one player) in my group didn't like the heavy politics in Shelter From the Storm and requested more combat. I tried to remedy it by making up more encounters but I haven't had time to DM since then so I don't know if I've succeeded yet. Maybe 4e will be different because even fighters will be able to do stuff outside of combat and don't have to feel like they can't contribute in a skill challenge for example. Anyway - on with the conversion discussion. [B]Act 1 - Message for the King[/B] [I]The Trip To Bresk[/I] Late Refugees: I've made a remorhaz conversion as a solo creature to suit this encounter. It will probably do well as an end-of-session fight after a long and slow introduction. [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=233283"]Remorhaz![/URL] Police Brutality: I have also made Steppengard soldiers and a commander. I'll post them in this thread later. Like the remorhaz I based their level on my own campaign where the characters are at the moment level 5 and will reach level 7 during this adventure. The conversion guide would indicate a higher level and I'm more and more inclined to go along with it since it would save me work if I didn't have to convert everything twice... So I'll probably post higher-level versions later. [I]The Capital of Bresk[/I] I couldn't really come up with good skill challenges to replace the systems described in this chapter to handle the audience with the king, so I decided to just use the rules given in the adventure. [I]The First Rule of Assassination[/I] Silencing Balan: I have converted Pixis although I'm not really sure if my version is that good. I will post that too later in the thread. [B]Skipping ahead a bit:[/B] My first real problem is the criosphinxes. Sphinxes in 4e aren't natural beings anymore, they are immortal angels given the form of winged lions to serve as guardians. The way the adventure describes the relationship between the criosphinxes and the gynosphinx doesn't seem to work when they aren't natural beings anymore. I don't think angels compete for mating rights, after all. I've been looking for something to replace the criosphinxes and perhaps the gynosphinx too but I haven't found anything that works. Any ideas? [/QUOTE]
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