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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6590484" data-attributes="member: 7006">Nope, I wouldn't say it was.&nbsp; PCs can get ACs of 20.&nbsp; It's not that big of a deal.&nbsp; Especially considering your calculations involve having this 3rd level elven fighter/warlock with Dexterity of 20 already.&nbsp; *That's* the atypical part of your calculations-- the rolled stats and getting the 18.&nbsp; Going by a typical buy array, your elven PC should really only have a 16 or 17 DEX, for a +3... meaning that Mage Armor + DEX + a shield gives an AC of 18.&nbsp; And an elven fighter/warlock with an AC of 18 isn't broken at all... especially considering the multiclassing has pushed back his acquiring of stat bonuses by at least one level.Now granted... this response is entirely just about whether the AC at a certain level is &quot;broken&quot;... not whether Mage Armor and a shield should stack.&nbsp; Personally... I have no dog in that fight and couldn't care less how any individual DM would rule it.&nbsp; I personally would be fine with it, because the player is giving up a lot of things in order to acquire both the Mage Armor spell *and* proficiency in shields... so I believe it's self-regulating.&nbsp; But at the base level... a PC at 3rd level with an AC of 18 is fine in my opinion.&nbsp; And even with an AC of 20 because they've rolled their stats and got the mythical 18 on 4d6.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 6590484, member: 7006"] Nope, I wouldn't say it was. PCs can get ACs of 20. It's not that big of a deal. Especially considering your calculations involve having this 3rd level elven fighter/warlock with Dexterity of 20 already. *That's* the atypical part of your calculations-- the rolled stats and getting the 18. Going by a typical buy array, your elven PC should really only have a 16 or 17 DEX, for a +3... meaning that Mage Armor + DEX + a shield gives an AC of 18. And an elven fighter/warlock with an AC of 18 isn't broken at all... especially considering the multiclassing has pushed back his acquiring of stat bonuses by at least one level. Now granted... this response is entirely just about whether the AC at a certain level is "broken"... not whether Mage Armor and a shield should stack. Personally... I have no dog in that fight and couldn't care less how any individual DM would rule it. I personally would be fine with it, because the player is giving up a lot of things in order to acquire both the Mage Armor spell *and* proficiency in shields... so I believe it's self-regulating. But at the base level... a PC at 3rd level with an AC of 18 is fine in my opinion. And even with an AC of 20 because they've rolled their stats and got the mythical 18 on 4d6. [/QUOTE]

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