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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shoak1" data-source="post: 6949559" data-attributes="member: 54380">Yes.  But it seems like there is a big resistance to any sort of change in that direction, which FEELS like this:"yay! We won the edition wars!!! Now don't give an inch back to the other side - they screwed us in 4e! Make those power gamers suffer for it!"Look, I have a group of gamers that have been playing D and D for between 10-40 years.  We play D and D less and less now.  Sure we could move to another edition, make all kinds of house rules, live w/o the content/support we don't get any more, etc.  But the reality is that its hard to get a group to all be on exactly the same page on all that stuff.  So its easier to just move on to other games.  So we have started to play Ameritrash games more and more, along w/wargames.  For me, it is particularly sad, since I was at the pinnacle of my D and D experience, with thousands of figures, miniature terrain, etc., building elaborate encounters and campaigns.  A real dream come true for a 49 year old man w/memories of playing the old brown book d and d using only theatre of the mind.I think many power gamers are going to go the same route, as they start beating the game a little too easily, and the DM has to scramble to find ways to challenge the players outside the system itself.</blockquote>