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<blockquote data-quote="Corwin" data-source="post: 378330" data-attributes="member: 1560">Yep, just what the title suggests. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />This came up in last night's game.I have a monk and am good at grapples. We were fighting a wizard in ghostform. This opponent was getting really annoying by popping in and ouot of the walls and floors, casting spells at us, and then taking off.Because he's incorporeal, he's got the 50% miss for cover and the whole &quot;ghost&quot; thing going.My mage buddy cast mage armor on me, since it is a force effect, and argues that it would allow me to grab him since my whole boddy was encased in a force effect and that affects incorporeals normally.The DM, thinking it over, came to a decent ad-hoc ruling (considering he was on the spot, so-to-speak).Basically, I still had the 50/50 miss chance, but, if successful, I was able to physically deal with him at that moment. But every grapple check or attack I made would be individually subjected to that 50/50.Thoughts as to how to deal with a situation like this?I just thought it was an interesting take in lieu of the fact that force effects are &quot;real&quot; to incorps.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Corwin, post: 378330, member: 1560"] Yep, just what the title suggests. ;) This came up in last night's game. I have a monk and am good at grapples. We were fighting a wizard in [i]ghostform[/i]. This opponent was getting really annoying by popping in and ouot of the walls and floors, casting spells at us, and then taking off. Because he's incorporeal, he's got the 50% miss for cover and the whole "ghost" thing going. My mage buddy cast [i]mage armor[/i] on me, since it is a force effect, and argues that it would allow me to grab him since my whole boddy was encased in a force effect and that affects incorporeals normally. The DM, thinking it over, came to a decent ad-hoc ruling (considering he was on the spot, so-to-speak). Basically, I still had the 50/50 miss chance, but, if successful, I was able to physically deal with him at that moment. But every grapple check or attack I made would be individually subjected to that 50/50. Thoughts as to how to deal with a situation like this? I just thought it was an interesting take in lieu of the fact that force effects are "real" to incorps. [/QUOTE]

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