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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 958906" data-attributes="member: 3192">Bigby's Hand spells are very nice and suggestive of what a high level abjuration can do.&nbsp; Interposing hand lends 9/10th's cover for a +10 bonus that stacks with most everything.&nbsp; Plus the reflex save.&nbsp; Unfortunately it only works agains one opponent.&nbsp; The other 4 hand spells state &quot;...as interposing hand&quot; plus other handy features.&nbsp; I've always thought of the wall spells as abjuration spells.&nbsp; They allow you to change the face of the battlefield potentially giving your nonspellcasters an advantage.&nbsp; &nbsp; Some can be domed to provide protection; not just trap your enemies.&nbsp; (Maybe they changed this in 3.5?)&nbsp; This would include the prismatic wall/sphere spells and the invulnerable globe spells too.&nbsp; Many spells can be used for protection even if they don't form barriers to an attack.&nbsp; i.e. invisibility spells, ethereal jaunt, the poly's and shapechange, iron body &amp; statue.Protection from spells, of course, is a spell, but this added feature is certainly protective.&nbsp; If you're looking to gauge what a high level abjuration spell can do, you may want to add magical protection in too.&nbsp; (SR, DR, elemental protections)For a spell that strictly gives an AC bonus, I would use the Improved Mage Armor listed above.&nbsp; Anything that potent that lasts all day is better than many magic items which will cost far more than that spell.&nbsp; (a spell that would ALWAYS be used)&nbsp; Imagine if you could cast it on your friends.&nbsp; AC is already delicately balanced at high levels.&nbsp; A +10 general AC bonus would require a commensurate bonus to attacks.&nbsp; Maybe your best bet is to try WotC's rules help line like one of these other threads suggested.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 958906, member: 3192"] Bigby's Hand spells are very nice and suggestive of what a high level abjuration can do. Interposing hand lends 9/10th's cover for a +10 bonus that stacks with most everything. Plus the reflex save. Unfortunately it only works agains one opponent. The other 4 hand spells state "...as interposing hand" plus other handy features. I've always thought of the wall spells as abjuration spells. They allow you to change the face of the battlefield potentially giving your nonspellcasters an advantage. Some can be domed to provide protection; not just trap your enemies. (Maybe they changed this in 3.5?) This would include the prismatic wall/sphere spells and the invulnerable globe spells too. Many spells can be used for protection even if they don't form barriers to an attack. i.e. invisibility spells, ethereal jaunt, the poly's and shapechange, iron body & statue. Protection from spells, of course, is a spell, but this added feature is certainly protective. If you're looking to gauge what a high level abjuration spell can do, you may want to add magical protection in too. (SR, DR, elemental protections) For a spell that strictly gives an AC bonus, I would use the Improved Mage Armor listed above. Anything that potent that lasts all day is better than many magic items which will cost far more than that spell. (a spell that would ALWAYS be used) Imagine if you could cast it on your friends. AC is already delicately balanced at high levels. A +10 general AC bonus would require a commensurate bonus to attacks. Maybe your best bet is to try WotC's rules help line like one of these other threads suggested. [/QUOTE]

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