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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4172661" data-attributes="member: 19675">Some issues (feel free to comment, of course):1)&nbsp; Why Spellsword at all?&nbsp; Battle Sorc &amp; Warmage both already have zero ASF in armor of a certain level, whereas SpSwd merely removes a certain % of ASF.&nbsp; In addition, by the time you qualify for the PrCl's spell-channelling, you've also qualified for Arcane Strike, not to mention Smiting Spell.2)&nbsp; Practiced Spellcaster doesn't help this guy that much since it doesn't add spell slots, it just improves effective caster level.3)&nbsp; While Ultimate Magus would boost # of spell slots, it depends upon having a decent Int- a stat this guy won't have.&nbsp; The same goes for taking any levels in divine caster classes that depend upon Wis.&nbsp; Remember, 2 of his 3 &quot;mental&quot; stats are dumps.(Near as I can tell at this point, between &quot;arcane&quot; only reqs for Arcane Strike and MAD, the only reason to take a divine spellcasting class is to get access to more touch spells to channel for Smiting Spell.)4)&nbsp; I'm probably going to take at least 1 level of Fighter for the bonus feat and the Martial weapon proficiencies, dependent upon what PrCl I'm aiming for.&nbsp; I've eliminated the possibility of taking the &quot;Armored Mage&quot; ACF- the downside is that you only get to ignore ASF when the spell you're trying to cast is close to your Ftr level.However, when I looked up the Havoc Mage PrCl, I started thinking about the Marshal.&nbsp; With all armor/weapon profs of a Fighter, plus Medium BAB, and a whole bunch of Cha driven Auras, it would seem to have nice synergy.&nbsp; But would you find a PC who is physically impressive and charismatic, but otherwise an idiot to be a believable &quot;leader&quot; type?&nbsp; I mean, possibly as a hereditary position, but as an adventurer?I'm also considering taking Paladin (w/the &quot;Holy Warrior&quot; ACF) instead of Ftr.&nbsp; You give up spellcasting in exchange for some bonus feats.5) Some Feats I've put in the &quot;neccessary&quot; column: Smiting Spell, Arcane Strike, Battle Caster, Somatic Weaponry.&nbsp; Other strong possibilities: Blade of Force (reserve), Bloodline Feat (any, DCv1), B</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4172661, member: 19675"] Some issues (feel free to comment, of course): 1) Why Spellsword at all? Battle Sorc & Warmage both already have zero ASF in armor of a certain level, whereas SpSwd merely removes a certain % of ASF. In addition, by the time you qualify for the PrCl's spell-channelling, you've also qualified for Arcane Strike, not to mention Smiting Spell. 2) Practiced Spellcaster doesn't help this guy that much since it doesn't add spell slots, it just improves effective caster level. 3) While Ultimate Magus would boost # of spell slots, it depends upon having a decent Int- a stat this guy won't have. The same goes for taking any levels in divine caster classes that depend upon Wis. Remember, 2 of his 3 "mental" stats are dumps. (Near as I can tell at this point, between "arcane" only reqs for Arcane Strike and MAD, the only reason to take a divine spellcasting class is to get access to more touch spells to channel for Smiting Spell.) 4) I'm probably going to take at least 1 level of Fighter for the bonus feat and the Martial weapon proficiencies, dependent upon what PrCl I'm aiming for. I've eliminated the possibility of taking the "Armored Mage" ACF- the downside is that you only get to ignore ASF when the spell you're trying to cast is close to your Ftr level. However, when I looked up the Havoc Mage PrCl, I started thinking about the Marshal. With all armor/weapon profs of a Fighter, plus Medium BAB, and a whole bunch of Cha driven Auras, it would seem to have nice synergy. But would you find a PC who is physically impressive and charismatic, but otherwise an idiot to be a believable "leader" type? I mean, possibly as a hereditary position, but as an adventurer? I'm also considering taking Paladin (w/the "Holy Warrior" ACF) instead of Ftr. You give up spellcasting in exchange for some bonus feats. 5) Some Feats I've put in the "neccessary" column: Smiting Spell, Arcane Strike, Battle Caster, Somatic Weaponry. Other strong possibilities: Blade of Force (reserve), Bloodline Feat (any, DCv1), B [/QUOTE]

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