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Mage Hand + Dinner Plate vs. Fireball
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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5999644" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Mage hand has a Close (25' + 5' per 2 lvls) range, but only allows you to move the object 15' each move action. So how does this play out? It only works at all if you have initiative...</p><p></p><p>Round 1:</p><p>You: Cast Mage Hand (standard action), Move plate 15' (move action), 5' step back (non-action if you haven't moved yourself) - you are now 20' away from the plate. If the fireball hits it, a nice GM may say you are outside the blast radius, a mean one will say you aren't.</p><p>BBEG: Cast Fireball (standard action). He is casting after the plate has stopped moving - it is a small, stationary object. He can aim his spell slightly to the side of the plate, so the fireball still goes off on you.</p><p></p><p>So, clearly that won't work. Let us try again...</p><p></p><p>Round 1:</p><p>You: Cast Mage Hand (standard action), Move plate 15' (move action). 5' step if you want, but not relevant.</p><p>BBEG: Pick his nose, or something.</p><p></p><p>Round 2: </p><p>You: Ready Move action</p><p>BBEG: Wonder briefly why there's a plate hanging in the air, cast fireball.</p><p>You: take readied action, move plate 15' away from you, into path of fireball.</p><p></p><p>So, this one only works if you know a full round ahead of time that he's going to cast Fireball. If, on Round 2, he picks some other spell, that plate may be useless. Lightning Bolt, for example, will blast right through that plate, and fry you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 5999644, member: 177"] Mage hand has a Close (25' + 5' per 2 lvls) range, but only allows you to move the object 15' each move action. So how does this play out? It only works at all if you have initiative... Round 1: You: Cast Mage Hand (standard action), Move plate 15' (move action), 5' step back (non-action if you haven't moved yourself) - you are now 20' away from the plate. If the fireball hits it, a nice GM may say you are outside the blast radius, a mean one will say you aren't. BBEG: Cast Fireball (standard action). He is casting after the plate has stopped moving - it is a small, stationary object. He can aim his spell slightly to the side of the plate, so the fireball still goes off on you. So, clearly that won't work. Let us try again... Round 1: You: Cast Mage Hand (standard action), Move plate 15' (move action). 5' step if you want, but not relevant. BBEG: Pick his nose, or something. Round 2: You: Ready Move action BBEG: Wonder briefly why there's a plate hanging in the air, cast fireball. You: take readied action, move plate 15' away from you, into path of fireball. So, this one only works if you know a full round ahead of time that he's going to cast Fireball. If, on Round 2, he picks some other spell, that plate may be useless. Lightning Bolt, for example, will blast right through that plate, and fry you. [/QUOTE]
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