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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 2070420" data-attributes="member: 9225">Since they don't, you shouldn't be.1) Your critique of the VAs and the SOE is not critique. The Technocracy bears as little relationship with real science as they do and to claim that one is more sincerely scientific than the other is sheer balderdash.2) Your view on how "fields of knowledge" are represented is so vague as to bear no dialectical weight whatsoever. Of course, if you mean conventional empiricism, you'll have to modify it in light of the setting, which says reality is subjective. As a result, the Sons of Ether, who you characterized as  anti-science, are the most honest pure scientists in the game. But you don't like 'em because they're "pulp." It's much more plausible to like the Technocracy, which is based on James Bond flicks.3) Numerous books in the line (the core, the STH and others) say that your point . . .ain't a point. The Mage Storytellers Handbook says right out that technology isn't good or bad. The Guide to the Traditions says that technology is only disliked by a small minority of insane or nigh-immortal Masters that ahve almost all been dead since 1997. Horizon: Stronghold of Hope features science and technology along with magic as part of the wonder of the Realm. Basically, your opinion is so much moe informed by a surface reading and appeal to your own issues rather than an actual reading of the text it leads me to ask: What Mage books have you actually owned and read?Honestly, the text citations necessary to respond are so obvious that I assumed you knew the game and were coming from some meta-angle. Now it just seems that you don't actually know the game.</blockquote>

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