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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 3402817" data-attributes="member: 78">Scrying is negated by Will saves, which clerics probably have stacked through the roof.  Plus there's the spell immunity line.  Mind Blank is also available in some domains.  Energy Immunity lasts all day - a cleric could have it running against every form of energy.  Clerics can have Contingency; it's days/level duration makes it attractive target for Miracle during downtime.  A cleric could also use Divination to determine a course of action to counter the most dangerous threat he'll face each week.  Clerics are also good at locking out teleport access over the long term with Forbiddance, Hallow+D-anchor, and Dimensional Lockdown. Plus a cleric could have a full stack of Energy Immunities.I think the issue is mostly a matte of strategy versus counter strategy.  The spells a wizard or cleric needs to counter one specific strategy won't help much against other ones.  Take this for instance:A silenced high level spell and a contingency devoted to melee combat is a not inconsiderable investment of resources to counter the threat of silenced cleric in melee.  What if the cleric goes to melee wrapped in antimagic instead of silence?  Or if he doesn't use Silence or melee at all?  Then those resources are wasted.  Sure, you could have different contingency against antimagic.  But then you don't have it against Silence, or whatever.  In theory, both sides can have the countermeasures versus pretty much anything the other side can do.  But they can't really have all of them.</blockquote>

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