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<blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 898944" data-attributes="member: 12032">Interesting question.&nbsp; Looks like it is really unclear.&nbsp; The issue raised by JChung is not at all how I thought about the spell, but it does make sense given the wording.&nbsp; The following questions get raised for PfE.* Can a creature with a 6&quot; knife who would be blocked by the 3rd clause of the spell actually attack the warded creature?&nbsp; If the creature can't get within the barrier then obviously no.* If a vampire is inside the barrier somehow (in bat form perhaps) and uses mind control does the barrier prevent it?&nbsp; Can the barrier block something that doesn't pass though it?I think I prefer the notion that the 3rd effect prevents the creature from passing though the barrier, as implied by the &quot;inside facing&quot; comments on magic circle.&nbsp; Any attack from inside the circle would negate the 3rd effect.&nbsp; I'm not saying that is exactly what the spell says, I think it is too vague to know exactly what it says.&nbsp; Rather that this makes the most sense to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brehobit, post: 898944, member: 12032"] Interesting question. Looks like it is really unclear. The issue raised by JChung is not at all how I thought about the spell, but it does make sense given the wording. The following questions get raised for PfE. * Can a creature with a 6" knife who would be blocked by the 3rd clause of the spell actually attack the warded creature? If the creature can't get within the barrier then obviously no. * If a vampire is inside the barrier somehow (in bat form perhaps) and uses mind control does the barrier prevent it? Can the barrier block something that doesn't pass though it? I think I prefer the notion that the 3rd effect prevents the creature from passing though the barrier, as implied by the "inside facing" comments on magic circle. Any attack from inside the circle would negate the 3rd effect. I'm not saying that is exactly what the spell says, I think it is too vague to know exactly what it says. Rather that this makes the most sense to me. [/QUOTE]

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