Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Enchanted Trinkets Complete--a hardcover book containing over 500 magic items for your D&D games!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
MAGIC Domain is Broken!
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Larcen" data-source="post: 37534" data-attributes="member: 2406"><p>Man, am I steamed.</p><p></p><p><strong>RANT MODE ON</strong></p><p></p><p>I have a cleric of Mystra that took Magic and Spell as his two domains figuring that although the low level spells those domains grant are not that hot, at least the domain special abilities are great. </p><p></p><p>I mean, for the Magic domain what we have here is a cleric that can read arcane scrolls! Sure, his level is divided in half for this purpose, but that's a small price to pay to get access to arcane spells via scrolls.</p><p></p><p>So here I was all excited to get my hands on some Magic Missile, or Fireball, or Lightning Bolt scrolls. Well, the first time I went to use an arcane scroll, our DM looked up the rules for reading spells off scrolls in the DMG. That's when the bomb was dropped:</p><p> </p><p>YOUR INTELLIGENCE DETERMINES WHAT LEVEL ARCANE SPELL YOU CAN CAST OFF SCROLLS! </p><p></p><p>According to the DMG, your intelligence needs to be (10+spell level) before you can cast the arcane spell. To cast a Fireball, a 3rd level spell, from a scroll you NEED a 13 Intelligence. Period. No roll to see if you can succeed anyway. Nothing. IT SIMPLY CANNOT BE DONE if your INT is 12. </p><p></p><p>This was NOT mentioned in the PHB. I think this is a huge diservice to all the "honest" players out there who do not peek at the DMG. The PHB should have mentioned something to the effect that a cleric will need a high INT to effectively use the Magic domain's ability. </p><p></p><p>As it is my cleric has an INT of 12, which means all he will ever be able to cast off scrolls is 2nd level spells. What a rip. It won't matter if his effective levels for reading arcane scrolls at Cleric10 is Wizard5. He still can't read 3rd level spells. Again, if this was somehow mentioned in the PHB, I wouldn't be so miffed.</p><p></p><p>Somebody please tell me we are interpreting something wrong, or missed something, or this is errata, or the Sage ruled Magic Domain Clerics can use their WIS instead of INT for scroll reading. Something.</p><p></p><p><strong>RANT MODE OFF</strong></p><p></p><p>Whew. Glad I got that off my chest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larcen, post: 37534, member: 2406"] Man, am I steamed. [b]RANT MODE ON[/b] I have a cleric of Mystra that took Magic and Spell as his two domains figuring that although the low level spells those domains grant are not that hot, at least the domain special abilities are great. I mean, for the Magic domain what we have here is a cleric that can read arcane scrolls! Sure, his level is divided in half for this purpose, but that's a small price to pay to get access to arcane spells via scrolls. So here I was all excited to get my hands on some Magic Missile, or Fireball, or Lightning Bolt scrolls. Well, the first time I went to use an arcane scroll, our DM looked up the rules for reading spells off scrolls in the DMG. That's when the bomb was dropped: YOUR INTELLIGENCE DETERMINES WHAT LEVEL ARCANE SPELL YOU CAN CAST OFF SCROLLS! According to the DMG, your intelligence needs to be (10+spell level) before you can cast the arcane spell. To cast a Fireball, a 3rd level spell, from a scroll you NEED a 13 Intelligence. Period. No roll to see if you can succeed anyway. Nothing. IT SIMPLY CANNOT BE DONE if your INT is 12. This was NOT mentioned in the PHB. I think this is a huge diservice to all the "honest" players out there who do not peek at the DMG. The PHB should have mentioned something to the effect that a cleric will need a high INT to effectively use the Magic domain's ability. As it is my cleric has an INT of 12, which means all he will ever be able to cast off scrolls is 2nd level spells. What a rip. It won't matter if his effective levels for reading arcane scrolls at Cleric10 is Wizard5. He still can't read 3rd level spells. Again, if this was somehow mentioned in the PHB, I wouldn't be so miffed. Somebody please tell me we are interpreting something wrong, or missed something, or this is errata, or the Sage ruled Magic Domain Clerics can use their WIS instead of INT for scroll reading. Something. [b]RANT MODE OFF[/b] Whew. Glad I got that off my chest. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
MAGIC Domain is Broken!
Top