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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hanez" data-source="post: 5902384" data-attributes="member: 82160">I can't really think of a type of popular magic that isnt at least partially combatible with D&D or one of its variations.Id start with gandalf, but his rare use of magic in the books doesnt give us a lot to work with.  He could easily be a vancian wizard who only uses his big spells occasoinally.If I'm going down the list of awesome wizards in fiction, I have to give props to Raistlin and Elminister, vancian, no suprise there.Next I'd probably say Pug by Raymon Feist, actually these book bring back so many awesome memories I want to put it ahead of Gandalf.  I don't know tho, nothin in it really jarred that badly with Vancian.  Maybe some others could remind me if it needs a completely different system.Magic in A wizard of earthsea was quite a bit different, but there are alternate magic systems that fit it a bit better, I think of some of the True name types like the magic presented in Arcana Unearthed to fit this better.I personally like the witch warlock types (as presented in arcana evolved).Only other popular magic I can think of is "wizards from waverly place", although the 4e at will/encounter system seems to be able to go iinline with that.I never really understood this type of complaint, I always hear that Vancian doesnt work well with popular fiction type magic but I have never really thought that when reading a fantasy novel. Maybe I need to read some new books lol.</blockquote>

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