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<blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 3436510" data-attributes="member: 537">Why do you take a position in defiance of established principles of item creation in D&amp;D?Something that isn't a common effect.Feel free to stop arguing any time.Wrong paragraph. I am referring to the various examples of improving items: the +1 sword made into the +2 vorpal sword, the boots of striding &amp; springing combined with slippers of spider climb, the boots of S&amp;S combined with +2 Dex, and so on. In all of these examples, no mention is made of prices differing according to which effect is put on first. Instead they all give a single price for an item, implying that order doesn't matter.Further, given all the &quot;behind the curtain&quot; sidebars, you'd think that if they were going to overturn this fundamental principle of pricing, they would mention it.Tch.Given the repercussions of interpreting that passage narrowly, it is obvious that such an interpretation is not the correct one.IOW, order doesn't matter: the price is the same, regardless of which ability goes first. As you yourself conclude below.Yes, just like it's been since 3.5 came out, or 3E even if you go by the general principle (although back then it was x2 instead of x1.5). Isn't this fun?It's an intelligence test. You must be THIS TALL to comment on this issue.Only because I deigned to educate you, my boy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hong, post: 3436510, member: 537"] Why do you take a position in defiance of established principles of item creation in D&D? Something that isn't a common effect. Feel free to stop arguing any time. Wrong paragraph. I am referring to the various examples of improving items: the +1 sword made into the +2 vorpal sword, the boots of striding & springing combined with slippers of spider climb, the boots of S&S combined with +2 Dex, and so on. In all of these examples, no mention is made of prices differing according to which effect is put on first. Instead they all give a single price for an item, implying that order doesn't matter. Further, given all the "behind the curtain" sidebars, you'd think that if they were going to overturn this fundamental principle of pricing, they would mention it. Tch. [indent][/indent] Given the repercussions of interpreting that passage narrowly, it is obvious that such an interpretation is not the correct one. IOW, order doesn't matter: the price is the same, regardless of which ability goes first. As you yourself conclude below. Yes, just like it's been since 3.5 came out, or 3E even if you go by the general principle (although back then it was x2 instead of x1.5). Isn't this fun? It's an intelligence test. You must be THIS TALL to comment on this issue. Only because I deigned to educate you, my boy. [/QUOTE]

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