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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8681118" data-attributes="member: 84112">But again we did all agree last night that a +3 cloth or +4 bracers were more powerful but the wand of mage armor is just a first level spell in a wand and as such not more powerful then any other 1st level spell.That is a great example. That is only 2pts of armor and can look like cloths.Yeah the types of social events we have been playing through did not lend themselves to that. For years we have worked that way. It is the fact that we have twice in this campaign had fights break out at social events that has brought this up.(Around 2 levels ago when at the princes 13 birthday ninja warlock assassins broke in and we had to defend prince… and a few weeks ago at current level the lich that has been the bane of our existence sent 2 shadow demons leading a small squad of insubstantial undead after the duke”s pool party to celebrate the new treaty. In near her case did anyone have weapons or armor except the few very dead guards that had MM guard stats with some race mods put on them).Edit: we all have spells. So even without weapons we were not defenseless so this isn’t a jerk DM thing.&nbsp; Of the 5 players we have 2 multi class Gish (including her) and 2 full casters and a half caster</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8681118, member: 84112"] But again we did all agree last night that a +3 cloth or +4 bracers were more powerful but the wand of mage armor is just a first level spell in a wand and as such not more powerful then any other 1st level spell. That is a great example. That is only 2pts of armor and can look like cloths. Yeah the types of social events we have been playing through did not lend themselves to that. For years we have worked that way. It is the fact that we have twice in this campaign had fights break out at social events that has brought this up. (Around 2 levels ago when at the princes 13 birthday ninja warlock assassins broke in and we had to defend prince… and a few weeks ago at current level the lich that has been the bane of our existence sent 2 shadow demons leading a small squad of insubstantial undead after the duke”s pool party to celebrate the new treaty. In near her case did anyone have weapons or armor except the few very dead guards that had MM guard stats with some race mods put on them). Edit: we all have spells. So even without weapons we were not defenseless so this isn’t a jerk DM thing. Of the 5 players we have 2 multi class Gish (including her) and 2 full casters and a half caster [/QUOTE]

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