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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 121236" data-attributes="member: 2829">IceBear, you're missing the whole point of the thread. I started this thread because I wanted to understand why some many people on these boards are so twitchy when it comes to magic items. A DM telling you &quot;No.&quot; is not the same thing as &quot;No. but if...&quot;.If you reread the thread from top to bottom, I think you'll see that what I was getting pissed about was people failing to provide any reasons as to why they would say &quot;No.&quot;. I wanted them to tell me why they wouldn't allow a certain magic item. I also was trying to convey that the magic item creation rules in the DMG were perfectly designed to cater to the DM. They were designed to allow the DM to create any item they wish, and also to deny any item they wish. In the case of the Gloves of True Strike, a player can argue that the rules allow it, but a DM can argue that the rules do not limit the Gloves to functioning in one particular manner. Balancing the cost and power of a magic item is easy, as the rules show you how to do this. What does piss me off are lazy DMs that say &quot;No.&quot; and don't provide any explanation. I have yet to tell a player that they can't create a particular magic item, though I will tell them how it functions when they are finished.This thread is pretty much in black and white. If you don't get it, I don't know how to help you, and I wish I could. But, your interpretation of my stance is absolutely dead wrong, which I figure you would know if you completely read the entire thread. If you did read the whole thread, then I don't know what I can do to make this clearer to you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 121236, member: 2829"] IceBear, you're missing the whole point of the thread. I started this thread because I wanted to understand why some many people on these boards are so twitchy when it comes to magic items. A DM telling you "No." [B]is not[/B] the same thing as "No. but if...". If you reread the thread from top to bottom, I think you'll see that what I was getting pissed about was people failing to provide any reasons as to why they would say "No.". I wanted them to tell me why they wouldn't allow a certain magic item. I also was trying to convey that the magic item creation rules in the DMG were perfectly designed to cater to the DM. They were designed to allow the DM to create any item they wish, and also to deny any item they wish. In the case of the Gloves of True Strike, a player can argue that the rules allow it, but a DM can argue that the rules do not limit the Gloves to functioning in one particular manner. Balancing the cost and power of a magic item is easy, as the rules show you how to do this. What [B]does[/B] piss me off are lazy DMs that say "No." and don't provide any explanation. I have yet to tell a player that they can't create a particular magic item, though I [B]will[/B] tell them how it functions when they are finished. This thread is pretty much in black and white. If you don't get it, I don't know how to help you, and I wish I could. But, your interpretation of my stance is absolutely dead wrong, which I figure you would know if you [B]completely[/B] read the entire thread. If you did read the whole thread, then I don't know what I can do to make this clearer to you. [/QUOTE]

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