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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kinematics" data-source="post: 8332819" data-attributes="member: 6932123">So, various different armors.  Some additions and removals along the way.Light armors: Studded leather is removed.  Instead, Brigandine (both cloth and leather) is available as a medium armor.  "Cloth" and "Leather" become "Padded Cloth" and "Padded Leather".  The price scaling seems to assume +4 from Dex, but an extra tax because it can still go higher with higher Dex.Medium armors: Half plate is moved to heavy armor. Brigandines are added, and the base AC for Hide seems to have been bumped up to 13.Heavy armors: Ring mail and Chain mail have been removed. Hauberk was added instead. "Splint" was misspelled as "Split".Pricing seems to be mostly scaled so that all armors with the same AC have roughly the same price.  Any differences from this seem to suggest some extra bonus or penalty from the armor type.The streamlining of prices looks good, and the armor updates are appreciated.  Nothing problematic other than the misspelling.  I do have to wonder about what benefits there are among the different armor types to justify choosing a different armor when it otherwise looks like you're just paying for the AC you want.Assuming you want to buy new armor using a large portion of your starting level wealth (using [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER]'s table, and figuring you're also wanting to consider weapons and other stuff), you're looking at AC 16 by 3rd level, AC 17 by 5th level, AC 18 by 7th level, and AC 19 by 10th level. Heavy armor users should be able to hit AC 20 by around 13th-14th level.  With the usual guesstimating caveats, overall it feels reasonable.Light armors:     Padded Cloth [11]     Padded leather [12] Medium armors:     Hide [13]     Chain Shirt [13]     Cloth Brigandine [13]     Leather Brigandine [14]     Scale Mail [14]     Breastplate [14] Heavy armors:     Hauberk [16]     Splint [17]     Half Plate [17]     Full Plate [18] Medium armor AC includes +2 from Dex.  Light armor AC includes +4 from Dex.<table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Armor</th><th>Bonus</th><th>Type</th><th>AC</th><th>Cost</th></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Padded cloth</td><td>0</td><td>Light</td><td>15</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td>Hide</td><td>0</td><td>Medium</td><td>15</td><td>10?</td></tr><tr><td>Chain Shirt</td><td>0</td><td>Medium</td><td>15</td><td>50</td></tr><tr><td>Cloth Brigandine</td><td>0</td><td>Medium</td><td>15</td><td>50?</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Padded cloth</td><td>1</td><td>Light</td><td>16</td><td>65</td></tr><tr><td>Padded leather</td><td>0</td><td>Light</td><td>16</td><td>10</td></tr><tr><td>Hide</td><td>1</td><td>Medium</td><td>16</td><td>150</td></tr><tr><td>Scale mail</td><td>0</td><td>Medium</td><td>16</td><td>50</td></tr><tr><td>Chain Shirt</td><td>1</td><td>Medium</td><td>16</td><td>150</td></tr><tr><td>Cloth Brigandine</td><td>1</td><td>Medium</td><td>16</td><td>150</td></tr><tr><td>Leather Brigandine</td><td>0</td><td>Medium</td><td>16</td><td>???</td></tr><tr><td>Breastplate</td><td>0</td><td>Medium</td><td>16</td><td>400</td></tr><tr><td>Hauberk</td><td>0</td><td>Heavy</td><td>16</td><td>???</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Padded cloth</td><td>2</td><td>Light</td><td>17</td><td>500</td></tr><tr><td>Padded leather</td><td>1</td><td>Light</td><td>17</td><td>400</td></tr><tr><td>Hide</td><td>2</td><td>Medium</td><td>17</td><td>500</td></tr><tr><td>Scale mail</td><td>1</td><td>Medium</td><td>17</td><td>250</td></tr><tr><td>Chain Shirt</td><td>2</td><td>Medium</td><td>17</td><td>500</td></tr><tr><td>Cloth Brigandine</td><td>2</td><td>Medium</td><td>17</td><td>500</td></tr><tr><td>Leather Brigandine</td><td>1</td><td>Medium</td><td>17</td><td>400</td></tr><tr><td>Breastplate</td><td>1</td><td>Medium</td><td>17</td><td>500</td></tr><tr><td>Hauberk</td><td>1</td><td>Heavy</td><td>17</td><td>450</td></tr><tr><td>Splint [sp]</td><td>0</td><td>Heavy</td><td>17</td><td>200</td></tr><tr><td>Half plate</td><td>0</td><td>Heavy</td><td>17</td><td>750?</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Padded cloth</td><td>3</td><td>Light</td><td>18</td><td>2,500</td></tr><tr><td>Padded leather</td><td>2</td><td>Light</td><td>18</td><td>2,500</td></tr><tr><td>Hide</td><td>3</td><td>Medium</td><td>18</td><td>2,000</td></tr><tr><td>Scale mail</td><td>2</td><td>Medium</td><td>18</td><td>2,000</td></tr><tr><td>Chain Shirt</td><td>3</td><td>Medium</td><td>18</td><td>2,000</td></tr><tr><td>Cloth Brigandine</td><td>3</td><td>Medium</td><td>18</td><td>2,200</td></tr><tr><td>Leather Brigandine</td><td>2</td><td>Medium</td><td>18</td><td>2,200</td></tr><tr><td>Breastplate</td><td>2</td><td>Medium</td><td>18</td><td>2,000</td></tr><tr><td>Hauberk</td><td>2</td><td>Heavy</td><td>18</td><td>1,500</td></tr><tr><td>Splint [sp]</td><td>1</td><td>Heavy</td><td>18</td><td>1,500</td></tr><tr><td>Half plate</td><td>1</td><td>Heavy</td><td>18</td><td>2,000</td></tr><tr><td>Full plate</td><td>0</td><td>Heavy</td><td>18</td><td>1,500</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Padded leather</td><td>3</td><td>Light</td><td>19</td><td>10,000</td></tr><tr><td>Scale mail</td><td>3</td><td>Medium</td><td>19</td><td>8,000</td></tr><tr><td>Leather Brigandine</td><td>3</td><td>Medium</td><td>19</td><td>8,000</td></tr><tr><td>Breastplate</td><td>3</td><td>Medium</td><td>19</td><td>8,000</td></tr><tr><td>Hauberk</td><td>3</td><td>Heavy</td><td>19</td><td>6,000</td></tr><tr><td>Splint [sp]</td><td>2</td><td>Heavy</td><td>19</td><td>6,000</td></tr><tr><td>Half plate</td><td>2</td><td>Heavy</td><td>19</td><td>8,000</td></tr><tr><td>Full plate</td><td>1</td><td>Heavy</td><td>19</td><td>6,000</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Splint [sp]</td><td>3</td><td>Heavy</td><td>20</td><td>24,000</td></tr><tr><td>Half plate</td><td>3</td><td>Heavy</td><td>20</td><td>32,000</td></tr><tr><td>Full plate</td><td>2</td><td>Heavy</td><td>20</td><td>24,000</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Full plate</td><td>3</td><td>Heavy</td><td>21</td><td>96,000</td></tr></table></blockquote>

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