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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kinematics" data-source="post: 8335542" data-attributes="member: 6932123">Magic items granting flight:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Permanents:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Winged Boots for 1500 [rare]. Requires attunement. Flying speed equal to walking speed for up to 4 hours per day.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Broom of Flying for 2500 [uncommon]. No attunement needed. Flying speed of 50', or 30' if carrying over 200 lbs. 400 lb limit. No time limit.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wings of Flying for 3500 [rare]. Requires attunement. Flying speed of 60' for 1 hour, with 1d12 hours cooldown.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cloak of the Bat for 5000 [rare]. Requires attunement. Flying speed of 40' while holding edges in dim light or darkness.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Carpet of Flying 3'x5' for 15,000 [very rare]. No attunement needed. 80' flying speed. 200 lb capacity.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Carpet of Flying 4'x6' for 20,000 [very rare]. No attunement needed. 60' flying speed. 400 lb capacity.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Carpet of Flying 5'x7' for 25,000 [very rare]. No attunement needed. 40' flying speed. 600 lb capacity.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Carpet of Flying 6'x9' for 30,000 [very rare]. No attunement needed. 30' flying speed. 800 lb capacity.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Consumables:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell Scroll (3rd level) - Fly for 175 [uncommon]. Flying speed of 60' for 10 minutes, concentration.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of Flying for 7000 [very rare]. Flying speed equal to walking speed for 1 hour.</li> </ul></li> </ul>The Winged Boots, Broom of Flying, and Wings of Flying appear to be following a simple progression for single-person flying items, priced at 1500, 2500, and 3500, respectively. The Cloak of the Bat is the next step up, at 5000, but also provides other features (advantage on stealth, once-per-day polymorph). The Broom of Flying is listed as [uncommon], even though the pricing is in line with the [rare] items.  It also doesn't need attunement, while the others do. Since attunement is mainly a way to limit how many magic items a character can have, it may be considered irrelevant to pricing.  Considered from that perspective, and the combination of features and risks involved with a broom vs worn items, it's probably OK as listed.  I'd guess the only reason the broom isn't [rare] is for backwards compatibility.I have no particular objections on the carpet pricing. They're all basically designed for tier 3+ play.Meanwhile, on the consumable side, the potion of flying feels way overpriced compared to the scroll.  6 scrolls (for 1 hour of flight) would cost 1050. Even if you consider removing the concentration requirement, I wouldn't increase the cost from 1000 to 7000. I would consider 2000-3000 more reasonable (though possibly overpriced even then).  Plus, the potion only gives you flying speed equal to your walking speed (30' for most characters), rather than the 60' you'd get from the spell scroll or Wings of Flying (also limited to 1 hour at a time, but non-consumable).  It's pretty much the weakest version of flight available, but has the highest cost (other than the carpets).Personally, I'd probably put the Potion of Flying at [rare], and price it at 1500-2000 GP.  Even at that price it won't be a casual purchase even up to level 10 (compared to level 5 where casters get access to the spell).  At 7000 GP, you don't really even start thinking about such a potion before level 10, and it's an expensive purchase even up to tier 4, which is ludicrous for a level 3 spell. The main benefit is merely to have a form of flight without using an attunement slot or concentration — which, admittedly, can have significant benefits, but doesn't justify countering that via pricing.</blockquote>

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