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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 5403326" data-attributes="member: 8158">I agree with a lot of this. The proliferation of action-denial effects is one of the biggest unrecoverable fumbles of 4e, and it was made necessary by the decision that every class would entail an extensive suite of powers. When designing a new class amounts to building an entire grimorie of a hundred or more spells just for its own usage, it becomes untenable to designate large groups of options as being off-limits. &quot;Sorry, weapon-users, no dazes for you. That's caster territory...Oh all right, don't look at me like that. You can have a few....Wait, don't grab so many! Please?&quot;&quot;Sorry, defenders. I can't go giving multiple attack powers to you guys when I don't even give them to all strikers. What's that? You're griping because you insist that dual-weapon fighters should be a viable build...Weellll, all right, maybe we were being too uptight. Go ahead and take a bunch. I'm sure nobody will notice. Just don't mention it to the warlocks. They don't realize that they've really got nothing.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felon, post: 5403326, member: 8158"] I agree with a lot of this. The proliferation of action-denial effects is one of the biggest unrecoverable fumbles of 4e, and it was made necessary by the decision that every class would entail an extensive suite of powers. When designing a new class amounts to building an entire grimorie of a hundred or more spells just for its own usage, it becomes untenable to designate large groups of options as being off-limits. "Sorry, weapon-users, no dazes for you. That's caster territory...Oh all right, don't look at me like that. You can have a few....Wait, don't grab so many! Please?" "Sorry, defenders. I can't go giving multiple attack powers to you guys when I don't even give them to all strikers. What's that? You're griping because you insist that dual-weapon fighters should be a viable build...Weellll, all right, maybe we were being too uptight. Go ahead and take a bunch. I'm sure nobody will notice. Just don't mention it to the warlocks. They don't realize that they've really got nothing." [/QUOTE]

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