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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 5813063" data-attributes="member: 58197">People were citing &quot;bag-of-rats&quot; as an example for why we need specific, clear rules for item slots rather than relying on &quot;common sense.&quot;Of course, much like Pun-Pun and the Omniscificer, bag-of-rats is a theoretical exercise in rules abuse. I have never seen nor heard of a gaming table whereat anyone tried to use bag-of-rats, and my mind boggles slightly at the idea that any DM ever would allow it to fly. 3E seemed to get along just fine without any specific rule against it, on account of DMs having... wait for it... common sense. 4E's &quot;no bags of rats&quot; rule struck me as more of an in-joke from the designers than an attempt to address a real problem.(Also, before you get all superior about never having played 3E and hardly played 4E... shall we dig into the broken rules in your edition of choice? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil&nbsp; &nbsp; :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" />)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 5813063, member: 58197"] People were citing "bag-of-rats" as an example for why we need specific, clear rules for item slots rather than relying on "common sense." Of course, much like Pun-Pun and the Omniscificer, bag-of-rats is a theoretical exercise in rules abuse. I have never seen nor heard of a gaming table whereat anyone tried to use bag-of-rats, and my mind boggles slightly at the idea that any DM ever would allow it to fly. 3E seemed to get along just fine without any specific rule against it, on account of DMs having... wait for it... [i]common sense.[/i] 4E's "no bags of rats" rule struck me as more of an in-joke from the designers than an attempt to address a real problem. (Also, before you get all superior about never having played 3E and hardly played 4E... shall we dig into the broken rules in [i]your[/i] edition of choice? :devil:) [/QUOTE]

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