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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6208473" data-attributes="member: 1465">Good point, this would actually prevent a lot of abuse because of the limit to attuned items.I am not sure if +2 AC from magic armor and shield is a big deal tho. But in general, I dislike having magic items that grant bonuses to attacks or AC in addition to more interesting properties.Yes definitely!However, non-magic armor and cover already stack. Spells that grant cover or concealment are part of the game. Maybe the Shield spell could grant 3/4 cover (instead of the current +4 to AC), and a rule could say that two covers don't stack.It would sound to me simpler to remember, that if you have cover from a wall and cover from a spell, you just apply the better, rather than having a "cover" keyword for bonuses, but YMMV.But how about character's abilities from class, race and feats? Now those IMO can stack... I try to check how many instances of bonuses to AC we can get in the game:- Stats:+Dex for everyone, but worn armor sets a limit on max bonus- Equipment:max 18 AC from armormax +2 AC from shield- Races:+1 AC Mountain Dwarf (med/heavy armors only)+1 AC Warforged- Classes: +1 AC defense fighting style of Fighter/Paladin/Ranger+Con for Barbarian (no worn armor only)+Wis for Monk (no worn armor only)wildshape AC for Druid (replaces armor worn)- Feats:+1 Dual Wielder (no shield only)+att bonus Fencing Master (1/round only)- Environment:max +5 from cover- Spells:+2 Barkskin+2 Hastebase AC increased to 13 by Mage Armor+1 Prayer+4 Shield+1 Shield of Faith- Magic Itemsmax +2 from current magic armorsmax +3 from Defender weaponsbase AC increase to 13 by Bracers of Defense or 15 by Robe of the Archmagi (no worn armor only)+1 Ioun Stone (not sure how many you can have)On a rough calculation (might be wrong), you can get up to AC22 from non-magic equipment or stats only for Barbs and Monks (if they are allowed to use shields, otherwise AC21), counting the fighting style and choice of race. It's possible that splatbook introduce subclasses and races with larger bonuses, but hopefully not much larger.As I said, things start to really get out of hand only if you consider multiple spells (or potions) being cast on the same PC, or if the DM allows an abundance of magic items.This is why I proposed simply a rule that says "bonuses from spells and magic items to the same stat do not stack", while everything else can keep stacking.Would be nice to do a similar check on other stats tho, most notably attack bonus. Any volunteer? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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