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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4809401" data-attributes="member: 35909">I think it's a horrible idea for 3E, and i'm glad it's gone.  Green Slime, since the value of high stats is not linear (8-->18 may be a 10 point difference, but costs 16 points using the point buy system you started with), shouldn't the price of such an item be based on the point buy cost?  And the 14 costs the same as a +6 item, not sure if that's coincidence or not, but it makes your creation rather pointless to anyone using point buy, unless they both spike their str score AND pick a race with a str penalty.And I don't understand how such an item would interact with the game.  It "sets" your str to 18 or whatever. Ok...so, bull's strength no longer can give you a bonus, whether orinal + BS is > 18 or not?  If that's the case, can you then not be subject to str penalties, like ray of enfeeblement.  Ray of enfeeblement can't take your str below 1 effectively.  Which means it's still being "set" to 18, even from 1.  If the penalty from RoE applies to the item, why not positive modifiers?  Because that'd be broken, but you don't care about internal consistency so RoE still works?What about str drain/damage?  Would you be paralyzed if your natural amount is reduced to 0?  Or would it still get set to 18?  Would the damage/drain apply to the item's 18, or your natural score?</blockquote>