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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 296151" data-attributes="member: 307">Well, I don't know very many parties that don't have one or more Wizards, Clerics, Sorcerers, Bards, or Paladins. Perhaps you are used to playing with parties that are entirely lacking in this sort of character, but my experience is that most parties have two or more characters in this group.Sure, since he can use it for any number of weapons. In many cases the bonus granted by GMW will outstrip the bonus of actual weapons carried by the party. Being able to cast GMW several times in a day can be highly useful.And to help himself out, and the party tank, and the party cleric, and so on.This would be one of the reasons I didn't bother to include Paladins in my list.Essentially you are talking about one third level spell per day, at most. For a reasonably high level Wizard (say ninth or tenth or so), this becomes a trivial cost, and gains significant benefits to the party. Leaving aside the bonus that accrues to the archer in his attack rolls, the damage bonus alone is more than worth using the spell slot.Suppose you have a five round combat (pretty typical in my experience). The archer (with Rapid Shot, since very few dedicated archers don't have Rapid Shot) can make three attacks per round. My general experience is that archers rarely miss once they get a magic bow, Bracers of Archery and get to the mid levels. In that five round combat, the GMW spell accounts for up to 45 points of damage inflicted (15 arrows). A Fireball cast by a 9th level Wizard maxes out at 54 points of damage, and only inflicts 31.5 points of damage on average. And that assumes that none of the foes make their Reflex save (a dubious proposition).And the archer still has 35 more GMW arrows available for several hours. I'm thinking one of the best uses for a third level slot for a Wizard from a damage dealing perspective is to cast GMW on a pile of arrows and hand them out to his archer friend.Do your clerics avoid memorizing any offensive spells at all? That seems odd, and counterproductive.Well, then the groups of characters who you are used to dealing with haven't thought things through, and are doing a lousy job of leveraging their resources.At ninth level, that single casting of GMW lasts nine hours. More than enough for the day's activities. You might need some later than that, but then again, a Wizard can go through his other attack spells early in the day too. This limitation is no greater than the limitation of anything else counted in slots per day.Not in my experience. But then again, the groups of PCs I'm used to dealing with worked thorugh this issue and came to the conclusion that GMW was an extremely good use of a spellcaster's resources.</blockquote>

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