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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 5308900" data-attributes="member: 58197">I suppose you could make a case that it's metagaming, but... eh. If it's important enough that the player is willing to devote effort to questing for it, then I figure one of the unspoken background details of the PC is &quot;Has heard of Magic Item X and wants one.&quot; And yes, the 30-year veteran player is more likely to include such a background detail than a newbie, same as the veteran knows to pick Twin Strike and not Careful Attack*. Such is life.Now, if the PC runs into a challenge in game that could be solved with Magic Item X, and immediately says &quot;I go out and start questing for Magic Item X,&quot; I might call for an Arcana check to know about such a thing.What's the difference between the player saying &quot;Here's a wish list of bad guys I want to defeat&quot; and the character going out and defeating them?It's not like the PC is just going to make a Streetwise check and find a flame tongue sword in a trash can. There will be some work involved. I believe in making PCs earn their rewards; it makes it much more satisfying when they succeed.[size=-2]*Careful Attack as originally printed, anyway. With the errata it's actually worth taking now.[/size]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 5308900, member: 58197"] I suppose you could make a case that it's metagaming, but... eh. If it's important enough that the player is willing to devote effort to questing for it, then I figure one of the unspoken background details of the PC is "Has heard of Magic Item X and wants one." And yes, the 30-year veteran player is more likely to include such a background detail than a newbie, same as the veteran knows to pick Twin Strike and not Careful Attack*. Such is life. Now, if the PC runs into a challenge in game that could be solved with Magic Item X, and immediately says "I go out and start questing for Magic Item X," I might call for an Arcana check to know about such a thing. What's the difference between the player saying "Here's a wish list of bad guys I want to defeat" and the character going out and defeating them? It's not like the PC is just going to make a Streetwise check and find a [i]flame tongue sword[/i] in a trash can. There will be some work involved. I believe in making PCs earn their rewards; it makes it much more satisfying when they succeed. [size=-2]*Careful Attack as originally printed, anyway. With the errata it's actually worth taking now.[/size] [/QUOTE]

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