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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nezkrul" data-source="post: 5975542" data-attributes="member: 6682154"><p>i'm not saying give them everything they want in every treasure hoard, i'm saying make available to them the items that make their characters better, here and there; i'm not saying give them a +6 belt of giant strength at level 2, but maybe a +2 belt; I'm not saying give them everything they want upfront at all; i'm saying it is good DMing to work it into your campaign, rather than flat out telling them no they can't buy better items, you have to use what I give you and thats it.  That kind of thinking leads players to want to drop their current character infavor of an artificer or other item crafter just so they can get what they want... and get it cheaper than what they were already willing to pay so they end up with more.</p></blockquote><p></p>