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<blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5776624" data-attributes="member: 78958"><p>No. Nonono.</p><p></p><p>All items that produce spell effects must either be spell trigger, spell completion, or "other" items. </p><p></p><p>Wands and Staves are always spell trigger items in 3.x. Only casters with a given spell on their class spell list can use a spell trigger item which produces that spell. Greenfield's description of what happens when a Wizard finds a staff formerly belonging to a Cleric is entirely accurate. Only a Cleric, Bard, Favored Soul, Druid etc. can use a Wand of Cure Light Wounds. Or a Wizard with the Arcane Disciple feat, but that's something else...</p><p></p><p>Scrolls, on the other hand, are spell completion items. Not only do you have to have the spell on your spell list to use a spell completion item; you must also observe the arcane/divine divide; and you must have the requisite ability score necessary to cast the spell. A Wizard finding a Cleric-produced scroll of Protection from Evil could not use it, because the scroll would be a divine one.</p><p></p><p>"Other" spell producing items include a lot of wondrous items, but also some rods and rings. Using the spells these items provide has no requirements, unless the item description specifically states otherwise (or states that it has a spell trigger or spell completion activation method). Anybody can use a Cape of the Mountebank's DimDoor power, for example, or a Ring of Invisibility.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Empirate, post: 5776624, member: 78958"] No. Nonono. All items that produce spell effects must either be spell trigger, spell completion, or "other" items. Wands and Staves are always spell trigger items in 3.x. Only casters with a given spell on their class spell list can use a spell trigger item which produces that spell. Greenfield's description of what happens when a Wizard finds a staff formerly belonging to a Cleric is entirely accurate. Only a Cleric, Bard, Favored Soul, Druid etc. can use a Wand of Cure Light Wounds. Or a Wizard with the Arcane Disciple feat, but that's something else... Scrolls, on the other hand, are spell completion items. Not only do you have to have the spell on your spell list to use a spell completion item; you must also observe the arcane/divine divide; and you must have the requisite ability score necessary to cast the spell. A Wizard finding a Cleric-produced scroll of Protection from Evil could not use it, because the scroll would be a divine one. "Other" spell producing items include a lot of wondrous items, but also some rods and rings. Using the spells these items provide has no requirements, unless the item description specifically states otherwise (or states that it has a spell trigger or spell completion activation method). Anybody can use a Cape of the Mountebank's DimDoor power, for example, or a Ring of Invisibility. [/QUOTE]
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