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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1619635" data-attributes="member: 5890">Just a point - the sylvan scimitar is, I believe a +3 weapon only, and gains the additional powers ONLY when outdoors AND in a temperate climate, which would give at least a 50% discount on the price to my mind.Not to mention the fact that you quoted the cost to create it, not the cost to buy one, but used the cost to buy the ability to price it.At a guess, the +1d6 outdoors in temperate climes is worth at most a +1, probably less.So - +4 weapon would be 32,000. The weapon costs 47,000, making the price of the cleave feat in very restricted situations a tidy 15,000.Or about 30,000 if you had it all the time.So this example just worsens your idea.Improved grab is far better than improved grapple, because it means that you never waste a grapple attempt. In fact, there's not really much reason NOT to use improved grapple with a -20 on the roll on every single attack you ever make, and if you really want to grapple something or someone, you waste nothing trying.</blockquote>