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<blockquote data-quote="BrooklynKnight" data-source="post: 1415172" data-attributes="member: 4490">Skill Magic ItemsOk. My DM decided to impose a&nbsp; rule restriction on magic items that grant competence bonuses.He feels that regardless of the bonus of the item, it wont grant the full bonus if you dont have as many ranks in the skill. Example. If you have 4 ranks in concentration, and an Item that grants a +8 Competence bonus, you only gain a +4 bonus since you only have 4 ranks. If you have 0 ranks, you cannot glean a bonus from the item.He wants the opinion of enworlders.Lets assume that the item in question wont be granting a bonus in a skill that requires training. In which case the bonus wouldnt mean anything, since you cannot preform the check to begin with.I'd like some of you guys to help explain how this defeats the purpose of skill bonus items to begin with, and gives an unfair advantage to those with ranks.(Its kinda like the increasing seperation of rich and poor. Its a rule that gives the rich more money, and restricts the poor from attaining any. Not balanced IMO.)Can the nice posters here at the rules forum help me show him why this is both unbalanced, and unfair? Nevermind the fact that it was a rule sprung in the middle of the game, not at the beggining.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BrooklynKnight, post: 1415172, member: 4490"] [b]Skill Magic Items[/b] Ok. My DM decided to impose a rule restriction on magic items that grant competence bonuses. He feels that regardless of the bonus of the item, it wont grant the full bonus if you dont have as many ranks in the skill. Example. If you have 4 ranks in concentration, and an Item that grants a +8 Competence bonus, you only gain a +4 bonus since you only have 4 ranks. If you have 0 ranks, you cannot glean a bonus from the item. He wants the opinion of enworlders. Lets assume that the item in question wont be granting a bonus in a skill that requires training. In which case the bonus wouldnt mean anything, since you cannot preform the check to begin with. I'd like some of you guys to help explain how this defeats the purpose of skill bonus items to begin with, and gives an unfair advantage to those with ranks. (Its kinda like the increasing seperation of rich and poor. Its a rule that gives the rich more money, and restricts the poor from attaining any. Not balanced IMO.) Can the nice posters here at the rules forum help me show him why this is both unbalanced, and unfair? Nevermind the fact that it was a rule sprung in the middle of the game, not at the beggining. [/QUOTE]

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