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<blockquote data-quote="Harzel" data-source="post: 7144238" data-attributes="member: 6857506">I might have been a little unclear.&nbsp; I am talking about cantrips such as Acid Splash.&nbsp; Suppose I teach my cloak Acid Splash.&nbsp; If I cast Acid Splash, I do not make any rolls - instead the target has to make a saving throw.So as written the first ability does me no good. (I don't want advantage; I want the target to have disadvantage.)And if I take the wording literally, not only does the third ability do me no good, it actually advantages the target.&nbsp; For Acid Splash, an (approximately) equivalent effect would be no saving throw for the target and making it vulnerable to acid (for that attack).So I guess it would be fine to say, &quot;Well, then don't teach your cloak Acid Splash.&quot;&nbsp; I was just suggesting that you could extend the wording to cover cases like Acid Splash as well.&nbsp; I guess that technically would increase the power of the cloak, but it seems pretty minimal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Harzel, post: 7144238, member: 6857506"] I might have been a little unclear. I am talking about cantrips such as Acid Splash. Suppose I teach my cloak Acid Splash. If I cast Acid Splash, I do not make any rolls - instead the target has to make a saving throw. [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial] [/FONT][/COLOR]So as written the first ability does me no good. (I don't want advantage; I want the target to have disadvantage.) And if I take the wording literally, not only does the third ability do me no good, it actually advantages the target. For Acid Splash, an (approximately) equivalent effect would be no saving throw for the target and making it vulnerable to acid (for that attack). So I guess it would be fine to say, "Well, then don't teach your cloak Acid Splash." I was just suggesting that you could extend the wording to cover cases like Acid Splash as well. I guess that technically would increase the power of the cloak, but it seems pretty minimal. [/QUOTE]

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