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<blockquote data-quote="Benimoto" data-source="post: 2877757" data-attributes="member: 40093">Because the orb spells require a to-hit roll.Magic missiles, in terms of average damage, do around 1d6/2 levels.&nbsp; Most other damage spells go with 1d6/level.&nbsp; So that means that any time you have more than a 50% chance of missing, magic missle's better.So, assuming you have around a +2 dex bonus, and the enemy has around a 12 touch AC, magic missile is doing the same damage as orb of force against an enemy with cover, up until you hit level 10 or so.&nbsp; If your enemy has any additional modifiers, like melee, concealment, improved cover, an exceptionally high touch AC, or is grappling a friend, then magic missile is outdamaging a 4th level spell.&nbsp; That's why those other orbs have additional effects, and a 15d6 level cap.&nbsp; Because otherwise they'd be embarassed by magic missile in many circumstances.I'm not really arguing that &quot;magic missile is too powerful, and needs to be banned&quot; or anything.&nbsp; I just know it's a powerful spell, and want it to be given its full consideration.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Benimoto, post: 2877757, member: 40093"] Because the orb spells require a to-hit roll. Magic missiles, in terms of average damage, do around 1d6/2 levels. Most other damage spells go with 1d6/level. So that means that any time you have more than a 50% chance of missing, magic missle's better. So, assuming you have around a +2 dex bonus, and the enemy has around a 12 touch AC, magic missile is doing the same damage as orb of force against an enemy with cover, up until you hit level 10 or so. If your enemy has any additional modifiers, like melee, concealment, improved cover, an exceptionally high touch AC, or is grappling a friend, then magic missile is outdamaging a 4th level spell. That's why those other orbs have additional effects, and a 15d6 level cap. Because otherwise they'd be embarassed by magic missile in many circumstances. I'm not really arguing that "magic missile is too powerful, and needs to be banned" or anything. I just know it's a powerful spell, and want it to be given its full consideration. [/QUOTE]

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