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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 2899521" data-attributes="member: 2525">I think if you are comparing 9th level spells to first level spells to make the point that the 1st level spell is not overpowered relative to the 9th level spell, then you have missed the point.Relative to the other lower level spells, magic missle is overpowered.  Relative to other lower level spells, a spell that auto-hits for damage with no save and no attack roll is overpowered.And if you think Magic Missle stops being a good spell after 5th level (which is, by the way, usually when people say it STARTS being a good spell, given it's damage and quantity of targets you can hit with it increases with levels up to 9th level) then perhaps you can tell me what other spell a 9th level caster can cast with a first level spell slot that will be useable in as many situations as magic missle.</blockquote>