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<blockquote data-quote="akbearfoot" data-source="post: 5384911" data-attributes="member: 33560"><p>Saw this brought up in another thread and I didn't want to derail it.</p><p></p><p>What happens when someone casts Magic Missile against someone with Mirror Image? In our gaming group, we've always played that magic missiles ignore the mirror image spell. Since magic missile strikes it target unerringly, and requires no attack roll, and mirror image does not cancel out line of sight or line of effect. </p><p></p><p>I don't really want to type out all the options because I can think of like 10 different interpretations. So instead I'll ask a few technical questions. Magic missile a. targets only creatures, and b. explicitly can't cause damage to inanimate objects. AFAIK figment illusions are not considered creatures.</p><p></p><p>1. Do attacks that deal no damage count as 'successful attacks'? If yes, then how is it any different from, say, an illusory creature making attacks that count as 'successful attacks'?</p><p>2. Do you actually have to roll randomly to see if you accidentally target an image with magic missiles? If yes, then why wouldn't that just cause the Magic Missile spell to fizzle out as per normal spell failure rules? ie you can't cast a spell that targets the wrong type of creature/object.</p><p>3. Can a person just say 'I want to attack 5 different images'? </p><p></p><p>4. This brings into question touch spells too...Can you actually discharge a touch spell on an illusory figment, because there is nothing there to actually touch?</p><p></p><p></p><p>After re-reading all the info a few times, I am inclined to stick with our groups original interpretation. The strictest reading would seem to be that you simply get 1 chance to either hit the correct creature with all of your missiles, or you fizzle your spell without destroying any images.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="akbearfoot, post: 5384911, member: 33560"] Saw this brought up in another thread and I didn't want to derail it. What happens when someone casts Magic Missile against someone with Mirror Image? In our gaming group, we've always played that magic missiles ignore the mirror image spell. Since magic missile strikes it target unerringly, and requires no attack roll, and mirror image does not cancel out line of sight or line of effect. I don't really want to type out all the options because I can think of like 10 different interpretations. So instead I'll ask a few technical questions. Magic missile a. targets only creatures, and b. explicitly can't cause damage to inanimate objects. AFAIK figment illusions are not considered creatures. 1. Do attacks that deal no damage count as 'successful attacks'? If yes, then how is it any different from, say, an illusory creature making attacks that count as 'successful attacks'? 2. Do you actually have to roll randomly to see if you accidentally target an image with magic missiles? If yes, then why wouldn't that just cause the Magic Missile spell to fizzle out as per normal spell failure rules? ie you can't cast a spell that targets the wrong type of creature/object. 3. Can a person just say 'I want to attack 5 different images'? 4. This brings into question touch spells too...Can you actually discharge a touch spell on an illusory figment, because there is nothing there to actually touch? After re-reading all the info a few times, I am inclined to stick with our groups original interpretation. The strictest reading would seem to be that you simply get 1 chance to either hit the correct creature with all of your missiles, or you fizzle your spell without destroying any images. [/QUOTE]
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