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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6902513" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">He's saying a few things here:-</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">* magic missile does not involve an attack</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">* since MM clearly is an 'attack' in language terms, there must be a reason why it does not count as an 'attack' in game mechanics terms</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">* the PHB tells us that if we need to determine if something counts as an attack, if it has an attack roll then it is an attack</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">* the only way this makes sense is that if something does not have an attack roll then it is not an attack</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">* if that were not the case, then magic missile <em>would</em> count as an attack</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">* it doesn't, therefore the <em>reason</em> must be because 'not having an attack roll' means 'it does not count as an attack'</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1C2022"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">If you disagree, then show us how JC's tweet makes sense in a world where not having an attack roll tells us nothing about whether or not something counts as an attack.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>

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