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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lucas Blackstone" data-source="post: 6902576" data-attributes="member: 68942">I was simply paraphrasing the same thing the rest of you were talking about with the rule "If there's ever any question whether something you're doing counts as an attack, the rule is simple: if you're making an attack roll,you're making an attack."So since we, as a group are discussing this, then there is a question at hand. Is Magic Missile an attack? The rule says if you're making an attack roll, you're making an attack. That's all the rule says. So now we check to see if Magic Missile makes an attack roll. It does not. So......no attack roll means it was not an attack. Grappling, as you brought up earlier, says you make a special melee attack. This is one of 5th editions uses of specific beats general. There is no specific rule that I know of that calls out magic Missile as an attack. Therefore specific vs general does not apply and counter or change us looking to see if Magic Missile needs an attack roll.The reason I pointed out Shield as supporting this reading of the rules is because Magic Missile says "Each dart hits a creature of your choice that you can see within range." If Magic Missile was an attack, then the dart hitting could trigger the use of the Shield spell because it would be an attack hitting. Instead, it's written in addition , as if an attack hitting would not cover it. There would be no reason to make this special caveat if a dart from Magic Missile hitting was an attack hitting.</blockquote>

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