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<blockquote data-quote="ThePolarBear" data-source="post: 6905056" data-attributes="member: 6857451"><p>Exactly. But as you wrote, you are casting a spell. That's all it takes for invisibility to wear off. And if you still think that it requires an action, would an invisible sorcerer that is subtle casting a counterspell become visible? Yeah, he is still casting a spell, even while not using an Action, in particular a Cast a Spell action, and not making any sort of movement or sound. Still becomes visible, since a spell was cast. And by the way, potions are explicitly exempt from this, as them (and other items) directly apply the spell effect bypassing the cast (all in DMG, page 141, section "Activating an Item", enfasis on the "Spells" subsection)</p><p></p><p>Just an example: Not all the effects from a Wand of Wonders would break invisibility, as not all effects are "cast". Still a Wand....</p><p></p><p>By the way, even if the discussion about invisible Dragons (or pretty much every other monster with a special action that's not explicitly an attack or a spell, and there are many) is very interesting... i'll go with <it's not 'makes an attack' but 'attacks', so anything harmful is enough> Yeah, not really a reason, i know, but it's simple and works...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since "it's impossible to track which image is real" (which by itself is a strange concept, but yeah), the only thing you can do is target "the caster", as those are all "the caster". You can't even track which is "the caster" one, two, three or four. You see 4, but all are "the caster". You attack "the caster" (most likely all of them at once) with your big Axy thing and either 1) You suck so much that you manage to miss an illusion 2) you hit something, and that something might have substance or be completely fake. And then lose track of what you actually hit, because of the movements of the images created by an illusion spell made to mess with your perception are actually messing with your perception.</p><p></p><p>For Magic Missile it's simple. It can't destroy the images since it's a spell that does not require an attack, like Fireball. It does NOT matter if a single Missile passes through all the images, dancing back and forth... it will land on the caster, and deal damage. All images would then mimic the caster taking damage and all still be up.</p><p></p><p>Shall we take it up a notch? Let's have a level 20 Warlock have fun and roll an Eldritch Blast at the poor Mirror Image caster. 4 rolls, 4 attacks, 4 images... One each, right? Nope, you can't distinguish which one is which, so you just shoot at 4 targets. That happen to be always "the caster". For you, in your mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThePolarBear, post: 6905056, member: 6857451"] Exactly. But as you wrote, you are casting a spell. That's all it takes for invisibility to wear off. And if you still think that it requires an action, would an invisible sorcerer that is subtle casting a counterspell become visible? Yeah, he is still casting a spell, even while not using an Action, in particular a Cast a Spell action, and not making any sort of movement or sound. Still becomes visible, since a spell was cast. And by the way, potions are explicitly exempt from this, as them (and other items) directly apply the spell effect bypassing the cast (all in DMG, page 141, section "Activating an Item", enfasis on the "Spells" subsection) Just an example: Not all the effects from a Wand of Wonders would break invisibility, as not all effects are "cast". Still a Wand.... By the way, even if the discussion about invisible Dragons (or pretty much every other monster with a special action that's not explicitly an attack or a spell, and there are many) is very interesting... i'll go with <it's not 'makes an attack' but 'attacks', so anything harmful is enough> Yeah, not really a reason, i know, but it's simple and works... Since "it's impossible to track which image is real" (which by itself is a strange concept, but yeah), the only thing you can do is target "the caster", as those are all "the caster". You can't even track which is "the caster" one, two, three or four. You see 4, but all are "the caster". You attack "the caster" (most likely all of them at once) with your big Axy thing and either 1) You suck so much that you manage to miss an illusion 2) you hit something, and that something might have substance or be completely fake. And then lose track of what you actually hit, because of the movements of the images created by an illusion spell made to mess with your perception are actually messing with your perception. For Magic Missile it's simple. It can't destroy the images since it's a spell that does not require an attack, like Fireball. It does NOT matter if a single Missile passes through all the images, dancing back and forth... it will land on the caster, and deal damage. All images would then mimic the caster taking damage and all still be up. Shall we take it up a notch? Let's have a level 20 Warlock have fun and roll an Eldritch Blast at the poor Mirror Image caster. 4 rolls, 4 attacks, 4 images... One each, right? Nope, you can't distinguish which one is which, so you just shoot at 4 targets. That happen to be always "the caster". For you, in your mind. [/QUOTE]
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