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<blockquote data-quote="Brandegoris" data-source="post: 7101491" data-attributes="member: 6867337">It has less to do with YOUR explanation than with what constitutes an &quot;ATTACK&quot; in the game. I get it is covered in the way the game explains the rules. I get games need rules. I think It is a POOR rule. The reason for this? The fact that threads like this exist. If the Rule on this was well done then I don't think we would be having this conversation at all. I think the core problem is the way they define attack rolls Vs. Non Attack spells and the leave an Ambiguous spell that doesn't fall into that. I get that MM is timeless and must be included and that it has always basically functioned the same way ( which is part of the nostalgia and what makes the spell great). But once you start tightening up a system and trying to clearly define this in Black and white it would behoove the designers to not allow this spell to function in the traditional way. I am not saying it isn't following the rules as they are currently written. That has been pointed out ad I accept it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brandegoris, post: 7101491, member: 6867337"] It has less to do with YOUR explanation than with what constitutes an "ATTACK" in the game. I get it is covered in the way the game explains the rules. I get games need rules. I think It is a POOR rule. The reason for this? The fact that threads like this exist. If the Rule on this was well done then I don't think we would be having this conversation at all. I think the core problem is the way they define attack rolls Vs. Non Attack spells and the leave an Ambiguous spell that doesn't fall into that. I get that MM is timeless and must be included and that it has always basically functioned the same way ( which is part of the nostalgia and what makes the spell great). But once you start tightening up a system and trying to clearly define this in Black and white it would behoove the designers to not allow this spell to function in the traditional way. I am not saying it isn't following the rules as they are currently written. That has been pointed out ad I accept it. [/QUOTE]

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