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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7106993" data-attributes="member: 23751">I never said it did.&nbsp; The d20 roll I mentioned is the one for Mirror Image.&nbsp; You know, the spell I'm talking about.Didn't say that, either.There is no difference in targeting whatsoever.&nbsp; Every attack and spell that requires a target requires you to be able to see that target, and takes the same amount of time to attack/cast at that target.&nbsp; Unless a specific spell explicitly says otherwise.&nbsp; Which is utter nonsense.&nbsp; And I really do get that the rules engage in that nonsense.&nbsp; I'm just calling it out for what it is.And if a spell can target him with 100% certainty, then so can a sword.&nbsp; If a sword has to roll to target him, then so should a spell.It does.&nbsp; That's what target means.&nbsp; It's very precise.Quote me the rule that says that targeting doesn't target a creature, but instead just generally means &quot;A creature out there somewhere.&quot;.&nbsp; Targeting is specific, not broad.5e is full of bad wording.&nbsp; Agreed.No it doesn't.&nbsp; Just like with the Shield spell, which causes the attack never to have hit you, Mirror Image causes you never to have targeted the caster.&nbsp; It's not a re-direction.&nbsp; Rather, it's you now having originally targeted an image.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7106993, member: 23751"] I never said it did. The d20 roll I mentioned is the one for Mirror Image. You know, the spell I'm talking about. Didn't say that, either. There is no difference in targeting whatsoever. Every attack and spell that requires a target requires you to be able to see that target, and takes the same amount of time to attack/cast at that target. Unless a specific spell explicitly says otherwise. Which is utter nonsense. And I really do get that the rules engage in that nonsense. I'm just calling it out for what it is. And if a spell can target him with 100% certainty, then so can a sword. If a sword has to roll to target him, then so should a spell. It does. That's what target means. It's very precise. Quote me the rule that says that targeting doesn't target a creature, but instead just generally means "A creature out there somewhere.". Targeting is specific, not broad. 5e is full of bad wording. Agreed. No it doesn't. Just like with the Shield spell, which causes the attack never to have hit you, Mirror Image causes you never to have targeted the caster. It's not a re-direction. Rather, it's you now having originally targeted an image. [/QUOTE]

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