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<blockquote data-quote="gleead" data-source="post: 5300367" data-attributes="member: 53914">I recently DM'd a scenario wherein a warlock combatant used miasmic cloud in an attempt to cover his escape and on the following turn a druid combatant outside the effect of the miasmic cloud used an action to activate call lightning which she had cast a few turns prior. An argument ensued as to whether or not the druid had to roll a miss chance against the warlock. In hindsight I realize that I had erroneously compared miasmic cloud's fog effect with that of the spell fog cloud regarding concealment granted when making my ruling; I have since re-read miasmic cloud and see that its fog is much less pronounced and cannot grant total concealment, rendering the above specific scenario moot.However, that got me thinking of a similar hypothetical scenario:Defender has total concealment from some legitimate source (be it fog cloud or invisibility or whatever) and is medium size. Attacker has spell which targets one 5-ft. square and targets the square which Defender occupies (either by luckily guessing or using some other means of location detection). Does Attacker have to roll a 50% miss chance to hit Defender?I guess I'm just confused about the wording of <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatModifiers.htm#concealment" target="_blank">total concealment</a>. Is its miss chance only granted to attacks which require rolls (seemingly the context of the entire Concealment section), or does it also apply to attacks which target a square (or range of squares)?Thanks!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gleead, post: 5300367, member: 53914"] I recently DM'd a scenario wherein a warlock combatant used [I]miasmic cloud[/I] in an attempt to cover his escape and on the following turn a druid combatant outside the effect of the [I]miasmic cloud[/I] used an action to activate [I]call lightning[/I] which she had cast a few turns prior. An argument ensued as to whether or not the druid had to roll a miss chance against the warlock. In hindsight I realize that I had erroneously compared [I]miasmic cloud[/I]'s fog effect with that of the spell [I]fog cloud[/I] regarding concealment granted when making my ruling; I have since re-read [I]miasmic cloud[/I] and see that its fog is much less pronounced and cannot grant total concealment, rendering the above specific scenario moot. However, that got me thinking of a similar hypothetical scenario: Defender has total concealment from some legitimate source (be it [I]fog cloud[/I] or [I]invisibility[/I] or whatever) and is medium size. Attacker has spell which targets one 5-ft. square and targets the square which Defender occupies (either by luckily guessing or using some other means of location detection). Does Attacker have to roll a 50% miss chance to hit Defender? I guess I'm just confused about the wording of [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatModifiers.htm#concealment"]total concealment[/URL]. Is its miss chance only granted to attacks which require rolls (seemingly the context of the entire Concealment section), or does it also apply to attacks which target a square (or range of squares)? Thanks! [/QUOTE]

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