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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6033322" data-attributes="member: 2067">It's a useful distinction between them and other classes because they might have a shared &quot;magic mechanic&quot; (or not). I don't agree.I think the distinction is that the DM might put a &quot;magic system&quot; in place for the whole world. For instance, the DM might decide to use ADEU, or Vancian, or Recharge, or Defiling/Preserving, or Artifice, or Patron, or Power Points, or whatever.If the DM does this, than all &quot;magic users&quot; will use the same magical mechanics. For instance, in 2e, all magic-users were &quot;Vancian.&quot;A DM may differentiate in different ways by using multiple magic systems. For instance, a DM fond of dividing up the magic by class may say there's no one &quot;magic system,&quot; but that warlocks use At-Will magic, and wizards use Vancian magic, and Sorcerers use Recharge magic, and psions use Power Points.Or a DM may differentiate by &quot;power source&quot; if they'd like, so that all arcane spellcasters use Defiling/Preserving magic, all divine spellcasters use Patron magic, and all psinoic spellcasters use Power Points. Or a DM may leave it up to the player so that of the three wizards in his game, one uses Power Points and one uses Vancian spellcasting and one uses ADEU spellcasting. Because &quot;magic users&quot; may all be using the same spellcasting mechanic (or not), this needs to be a separate category from &quot;non-magic-users,&quot; who presumably won't have to worry about that noise really.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6033322, member: 2067"] It's a useful distinction between them and other classes because they might have a shared "magic mechanic" (or not). I don't agree. I think the distinction is that the DM might put a "magic system" in place for the whole world. For instance, the DM might decide to use ADEU, or Vancian, or Recharge, or Defiling/Preserving, or Artifice, or Patron, or Power Points, or whatever. If the DM does this, than all "magic users" will use the same magical mechanics. For instance, in 2e, all magic-users were "Vancian." A DM may differentiate in different ways by using multiple magic systems. For instance, a DM fond of dividing up the magic by class may say there's no one "magic system," but that warlocks use At-Will magic, and wizards use Vancian magic, and Sorcerers use Recharge magic, and psions use Power Points. Or a DM may differentiate by "power source" if they'd like, so that all arcane spellcasters use Defiling/Preserving magic, all divine spellcasters use Patron magic, and all psinoic spellcasters use Power Points. Or a DM may leave it up to the player so that of the three wizards in his game, one uses Power Points and one uses Vancian spellcasting and one uses ADEU spellcasting. Because "magic users" may all be using the same spellcasting mechanic (or not), this needs to be a separate category from "non-magic-users," who presumably won't have to worry about that noise really. [/QUOTE]

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