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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6033365" data-attributes="member: 2067">That sounds remarkably cynical to me. They've mentioned a few times now that feedback is telling them that casting mechanics should rest at the system level. So I think they're going to disentangle casting mechanics from class, so that you can mix and match them.You're assuming there's not going to be a &quot;default.&quot; I don't think that's a safe assumption.And if they end up following the ideas I've laid out, those people will now have a lot more options for their preferred spellcasting mechanic. They could be charismatic and inspired, or bookish and academic, or dark and dangerous, or even granted blessings from their deity, all without changing the spellcasting mechanics they love. It's actually the case for EVERYONE, not just sorcerers, but it's true for sorcs, too. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> When I use the term &quot;Vancian Magic,&quot; I don't refer to spellbooks. I refer to the slot-based (and &quot;slots per day per level&quot;) method of determining what variety of spells you can cast and how many. A Vancian sorcerer is the 3e Sorcerer. A Vancian Wizard is the 3e Wizard. A &quot;Power Point&quot; sorcerer would look more like a 3e psion mechanically, but they'd still probably know the same number of spells (not that many) and be able to use the same amount of spells per day (lots), regardless of the mechanics used to achieve that.And placing the mechanics outside of the class actually gives them a lot more room to breathe. They're not JUST a unique spellcasting mechanic anymore -- they're a unique class, with their own unique identity apart from &quot;casts magic.&quot; A*hem....There's probably going to be a default, if only to not paralyze newbs.I think you'll be fine. They're looking to make the fighter even simpler. I've no doubt that they'll do the same with some spellcaster.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6033365, member: 2067"] That sounds remarkably cynical to me. They've mentioned a few times now that feedback is telling them that casting mechanics should rest at the system level. So I think they're going to disentangle casting mechanics from class, so that you can mix and match them. You're assuming there's not going to be a "default." I don't think that's a safe assumption. And if they end up following the ideas I've laid out, those people will now have [I]a lot more options[/I] for their preferred spellcasting mechanic. They could be charismatic and inspired, or bookish and academic, or dark and dangerous, or even granted blessings from their deity, all without changing the spellcasting mechanics they love. It's actually the case for EVERYONE, not just sorcerers, but it's true for sorcs, too. :) When I use the term "Vancian Magic," I don't refer to spellbooks. I refer to the slot-based (and "slots per day per level") method of determining what variety of spells you can cast and how many. A Vancian sorcerer [I]is[/I] the 3e Sorcerer. A Vancian Wizard [I]is[/I] the 3e Wizard. A "Power Point" sorcerer would look more like a 3e psion mechanically, but they'd still probably know the same number of spells (not that many) and be able to use the same amount of spells per day (lots), regardless of the mechanics used to achieve that. And placing the mechanics outside of the class actually gives them a lot more room to breathe. They're not JUST a unique spellcasting mechanic anymore -- they're a unique class, with their own unique identity apart from "casts magic." A*hem.... [B]There's probably going to be a default, if only to not paralyze newbs[/B]. I think you'll be fine. They're looking to make the fighter even simpler. I've no doubt that they'll do the same with some spellcaster. [/QUOTE]

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