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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Joker" data-source="post: 2763463" data-attributes="member: 826">I don't think they are particularly tough, but I do think they (High-level magic users) are very flexible, have great mobility and some serious power.3.X is very magic dependent (whether or not it's "too" dependent on magic depends on your POV).  Of all the editions I feel that 3.X has the greatest emphasis on magic items.  It's all about making the most out of the few slots that you have.That said, and don't take this as a personal attack, I think your example is skewed.  Some classes are more dependent on magic items and magic support than others.  You cannot expect any magic-less character to take on a magic user at what?  1100ft apart?  The wizard would just fly off/become invisible/ bombard from far way without the fighter being able to do anything.  In this situation it hardly matters what level the fighter is.  The wizard is gonna own simply by virtue of the fighter being severely handicapped.An iconic party consists of character complimenting and supplementing each other to achieve or overcome something.  They buff the fighters, protect the wizards, aid the rogues, cast hold person on the bezerkers.  This is DnD as I see it.But eventually the wizard will outgrow the fighter.  It's practically inevitable.</blockquote>