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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5140480" data-attributes="member: 59248">#28: Indeed.  Basically, a druid pays for being able to do everything (including getting an extra At Will) by having to "lock" her capabilities in a given turn -- thus on at least some turns where she makes an area attack, she doesn't have a reasonable MBA for OAs and granted attacks (there's no disadvantage to running around in beast form all the time, except that ranged area invocations are technically more powerful -- all things being equal).#29: Says who?  I gave the wording of Versitile Expertise upthread -- it never says anything about Weapon powers or Implement powers.  Just that you get a +1 feat bonus to hit with the chosen groups of items.  Nothing about what powers you have to be using with them at all.  If you have +1 to hit with Light Blades, you have a +1 to hit with all attacks with them -- implement and melee.Mind, at the very least I'd rule VE that you can only choose groups you're proficient in using.  So you'd need to be a monk to get VE: All weapons you're proficient in, or a swordmage to get VE: light blades.  Otherwise, even if they eratta VE that the implement bonus only works with Implement powers, everyone who can use weapons as an implements take the monk version instead of their own, as it's just superior (particularly for all weapliment classes, such as sorcs and swordmages).One reason I prefer VE as written (except that it should require proficiency) is that this lets it cover magic weapliments reasonably.  If VE covers your weapon even if you're using it for Implement powers, the Alsfar Spear or Songblade you pick up has a reasonable attack bonus--otherwise, not so much.</blockquote>

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