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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 918351" data-attributes="member: 111">Here are all the SRD weapon that have special abilities triggered by critical hits.&nbsp; You may note that the language of &quot;successful criticial hit&quot; is not used for Flame Tongue, Mace of Smiting, Nine Lives Stealer or Sword of Life Stealing, thus negating that part of the argument that was postulated early on.As for the Mace of Smiting making a special exception - maybe so.&nbsp; Of course, that's only implied, and the Sage went even further in declaring that the Improved Critical feat would not apply.We can only hope they tighten up the language used for Mace of Smiting to fix this problem.There are two schools of thought on this, really:(1) Mace of Smiting is special and simply does not follow the rules.&nbsp; Nothing about the Mace of Disruption can be applied to other weapons, because its special.(2)&nbsp; All special critial effects can occur even if the target is immune to critical hits.Frankly, number (2) is the far simpler rule, but neither one can really be justified by the rules as written.&nbsp; You have to figure out what is implied by the way the rules were written.&nbsp; This, of course, means that both sides of this argument can easily prevail because the rules simply are written so poorly that you can easily justify either approach.The Sage's ruling is reasonable except for the Improved Critical exception.&nbsp; For that to be true you have to pull out even more from the Mace of Smiting than exists in the text.Finally:Note that there is NO distinction between a &quot;critical hit&quot; and a &quot;successful critical hit.&quot;&nbsp; There is only a &quot;threat&quot; and a &quot;critical hit.&quot;&nbsp; The terms &quot;critical hit&quot; and &quot;successful critical hit&quot; are synonomous.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 918351, member: 111"] Here are all the SRD weapon that have special abilities triggered by critical hits. You may note that the language of "successful criticial hit" is not used for Flame Tongue, Mace of Smiting, Nine Lives Stealer or Sword of Life Stealing, thus negating that part of the argument that was postulated early on. As for the Mace of Smiting making a special exception - maybe so. Of course, that's only implied, and the Sage went even further in declaring that the Improved Critical feat would not apply. We can only hope they tighten up the language used for Mace of Smiting to fix this problem. There are two schools of thought on this, really: (1) Mace of Smiting is special and simply does not follow the rules. Nothing about the Mace of Disruption can be applied to other weapons, because its special. (2) All special critial effects can occur even if the target is immune to critical hits. Frankly, number (2) is the far simpler rule, but neither one can really be justified by the rules as written. You have to figure out what is implied by the way the rules were written. This, of course, means that both sides of this argument can easily prevail because the rules simply are written so poorly that you can easily justify either approach. The Sage's ruling is reasonable except for the Improved Critical exception. For that to be true you have to pull out even more from the Mace of Smiting than exists in the text. Finally: Note that there is NO distinction between a "critical hit" and a "successful critical hit." There is only a "threat" and a "critical hit." The terms "critical hit" and "successful critical hit" are synonomous. [/QUOTE]

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