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<blockquote data-quote="PrecociousApprentice" data-source="post: 4346798" data-attributes="member: 61449"><p>You are right that it doesn't but wrong in why it doesn't. It doesn't because there is no power that has the necrotic keyword for the clas or racial power to inherit, so the inheritance rule doesn't apply. </p><p></p><p>When refering to the flaming and frost weapons giving both cold/fire damage as well as the radiant damage when used, it says nothing about if the At-Will of the weapon is used, just that the weapon is used. You cannot just assume that the At-Will is used. It doesn't say that. So it gains the cold/fire keyword to add to the radiant and then splits the damage between. If the At-Will had been active, then the damage would all be cold/fire as it states in the Frost/Flaming weapon entry. No At-Will weapon power was used though. The weapon was used, not the At-Will.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Does it make any more sense to have a power that deals cold and fire damage without the implement? Since you are channeling the power through the implement to get the enhancement bonus, I don't see why it shouldn't pick up a few characteristics of the implement on the way. Effect keywords still stay effects, even when damage is done, and damage keywords still stay damage even when there is an effect. No Fear damage, because fear is an effect, not damage. The disintigrate now has both a damage keyword and a fear keyword. The warlock is not scary, the wand makes the power have the fear keyword. Not exactly intuitive, but neither is magic, and that is what we are talking about.</p><p> </p><p>Seems to me that all this does is make the max 4 dailies actually really good instead of just a 1.5 round speedbump. I'm OK with that at this point. I may change my tune with some more playtime, but now I'm OK. Your math also didn't include the bonus to saves that solos and elites get. Just from memory I think it is something like +6 and +2 respectively. That changes things. And with a 26 wis, you gotta be 21st level at that point. I'm OK with that level of power at that epic level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PrecociousApprentice, post: 4346798, member: 61449"] You are right that it doesn't but wrong in why it doesn't. It doesn't because there is no power that has the necrotic keyword for the clas or racial power to inherit, so the inheritance rule doesn't apply. When refering to the flaming and frost weapons giving both cold/fire damage as well as the radiant damage when used, it says nothing about if the At-Will of the weapon is used, just that the weapon is used. You cannot just assume that the At-Will is used. It doesn't say that. So it gains the cold/fire keyword to add to the radiant and then splits the damage between. If the At-Will had been active, then the damage would all be cold/fire as it states in the Frost/Flaming weapon entry. No At-Will weapon power was used though. The weapon was used, not the At-Will. Does it make any more sense to have a power that deals cold and fire damage without the implement? Since you are channeling the power through the implement to get the enhancement bonus, I don't see why it shouldn't pick up a few characteristics of the implement on the way. Effect keywords still stay effects, even when damage is done, and damage keywords still stay damage even when there is an effect. No Fear damage, because fear is an effect, not damage. The disintigrate now has both a damage keyword and a fear keyword. The warlock is not scary, the wand makes the power have the fear keyword. Not exactly intuitive, but neither is magic, and that is what we are talking about. Seems to me that all this does is make the max 4 dailies actually really good instead of just a 1.5 round speedbump. I'm OK with that at this point. I may change my tune with some more playtime, but now I'm OK. Your math also didn't include the bonus to saves that solos and elites get. Just from memory I think it is something like +6 and +2 respectively. That changes things. And with a 26 wis, you gotta be 21st level at that point. I'm OK with that level of power at that epic level. [/QUOTE]
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