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<blockquote data-quote="PrecociousApprentice" data-source="post: 4346920" data-attributes="member: 61449"><p>Again, this is not true. In order to deal <strong>all</strong> fire damage, the weapon's at-will must be used. This is the specific rule that over-rides the general rule that you split the damage between all damage keyword types, and when you use a class or racial power with (not magic item power from) a magic item that has a power with a keyword, then the class or racial power gains all the magic item keywords, and so you split the damage between any damage keywords that now apply.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is correct. (With the possible exception of the melee basic attack. I am not sure if this should be considered a class or racial power that everyone has. For now I will agree and say no.) Adding the At-Will will change all the damage to fire, just like it says in the Flaming weapon description. Otherwise it inherits the keyword fire, and divides the damage between fire and any others that might apply.</p><p>This is wrong because there is nowhere that says the damage is interchangeable. There are explicit rules found in the item description about the At-Will changing <strong>all</strong> damage to fire, the class or racial powers inheriting the keywords of the powers of the magic items that the powers are used with, and the splitting of damage between damage keywords. The fact that the example in the PHB uses a flaming weapon has more to do with the fact the the flaming weapon has a power with the fire keyword than the fact that the flaming weapon has an at will that can make all of the damage fire. The At-Will is not used in the example.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Now I got ninja'd! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As for the reliable eratta, I looked here <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=229723" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=229723</a>. I didn't check the WotC site, but EnWorld says that it was erattaed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PrecociousApprentice, post: 4346920, member: 61449"] Again, this is not true. In order to deal [B]all[/B] fire damage, the weapon's at-will must be used. This is the specific rule that over-rides the general rule that you split the damage between all damage keyword types, and when you use a class or racial power with (not magic item power from) a magic item that has a power with a keyword, then the class or racial power gains all the magic item keywords, and so you split the damage between any damage keywords that now apply. This is correct. (With the possible exception of the melee basic attack. I am not sure if this should be considered a class or racial power that everyone has. For now I will agree and say no.) Adding the At-Will will change all the damage to fire, just like it says in the Flaming weapon description. Otherwise it inherits the keyword fire, and divides the damage between fire and any others that might apply. This is wrong because there is nowhere that says the damage is interchangeable. There are explicit rules found in the item description about the At-Will changing [B]all[/B] damage to fire, the class or racial powers inheriting the keywords of the powers of the magic items that the powers are used with, and the splitting of damage between damage keywords. The fact that the example in the PHB uses a flaming weapon has more to do with the fact the the flaming weapon has a power with the fire keyword than the fact that the flaming weapon has an at will that can make all of the damage fire. The At-Will is not used in the example. EDIT: Now I got ninja'd! :) As for the reliable eratta, I looked here [url]http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=229723[/url]. I didn't check the WotC site, but EnWorld says that it was erattaed. [/QUOTE]
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