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<blockquote data-quote="Ipissimus" data-source="post: 3347700" data-attributes="member: 41514"><p>-sigh-</p><p></p><p>Presto:</p><p>Yes, one person to run it, rather than 10+. That is a substantial saving.</p><p></p><p>The weight limit is a problem if you want to stick to the letter of the law, I personally don't think it really matters since you're not actually trying to do anything violent. It's just cleaning, it doesn't matter in the same way a fireball matters.</p><p></p><p>If you remember my original post, I said it couldn't be a wand.</p><p></p><p>I personally think you're being too hide-bound to the rules which are, after all, there to support the story rather than the other way arround. Oh, by the way, that's a rule too, it's in the DMG. It doesn't really matter if it's prestidigitation or not, or an entirely new spell or if you have to create an entirely new magic object for it... it's just cleaning, nothing serious. There's no need to throw an entire idea out the window because of one picky little detail.</p><p></p><p>Surgury:</p><p>Yes, but this is where magic is better than science. Why take any risk at all when you don't have to? Heck, the Hat of Disguise is a better option than being turned to stone! And for the same reason, I wouldn't subject myself to Polymorph Any Object... plus, it's an 8th level spell which costs a ton of gold and you'd have to disturb an Archmage to get it.</p><p></p><p>Which brings me back to my first conclusion: new spell needed. Heck, is there any real reason why there shouldn't be an Alter Other spell? How many faerie tales and stories have people turning from one person to another with spells cast by people who actually can't demolish an entire castle single-handedly? Would it really break the game? No, not if you think it through.</p><p></p><p>It's yet another good idea, I see no reason to plague it with problems that it doesn't need.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ipissimus, post: 3347700, member: 41514"] -sigh- Presto: Yes, one person to run it, rather than 10+. That is a substantial saving. The weight limit is a problem if you want to stick to the letter of the law, I personally don't think it really matters since you're not actually trying to do anything violent. It's just cleaning, it doesn't matter in the same way a fireball matters. If you remember my original post, I said it couldn't be a wand. I personally think you're being too hide-bound to the rules which are, after all, there to support the story rather than the other way arround. Oh, by the way, that's a rule too, it's in the DMG. It doesn't really matter if it's prestidigitation or not, or an entirely new spell or if you have to create an entirely new magic object for it... it's just cleaning, nothing serious. There's no need to throw an entire idea out the window because of one picky little detail. Surgury: Yes, but this is where magic is better than science. Why take any risk at all when you don't have to? Heck, the Hat of Disguise is a better option than being turned to stone! And for the same reason, I wouldn't subject myself to Polymorph Any Object... plus, it's an 8th level spell which costs a ton of gold and you'd have to disturb an Archmage to get it. Which brings me back to my first conclusion: new spell needed. Heck, is there any real reason why there shouldn't be an Alter Other spell? How many faerie tales and stories have people turning from one person to another with spells cast by people who actually can't demolish an entire castle single-handedly? Would it really break the game? No, not if you think it through. It's yet another good idea, I see no reason to plague it with problems that it doesn't need. [/QUOTE]
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