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<blockquote data-quote="FoxWander" data-source="post: 5432813" data-attributes="member: 1356">Back on topic- I'm a big fan of crowbars as weapons.&nbsp; In our campaign we ruled that a crowbar would NOT be an &quot;improvised&quot; club.&nbsp; That rule just doesn't make since.&nbsp; According to RAW, if you found a random, wooden stick (a club has no cost, so that's all it is -a stick. It's just presumed to be in some non-awkward, nice &quot;club&quot; shape), anyway, a random stick that was exactly the size and shape of crowbar would somehow be a better weapon than it's all metal twin, an actual crowbar. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:"&nbsp; data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />&nbsp; We ruled that while there's no &quot;improvised&quot; penalty for using a crowbar in combat, it's still not made as a weapon so it shouldn't be any better than a club. We made it a light weapon (so you can't use it two-handed) that's essentially the same as a light mace.&nbsp; We then took it one step further and introduced a &quot;weaponized&quot; combat crowbar (The perfect adventurer tool!) that functions as a one-handed weapon, bumps the damage up one die, and can do piercing or bludgeoning damage depending on how you swing it- so essentially the same as a morningstar. The attached picture is collection of some of my character's weapons, but it shows a masterwork version of our combat crowbar.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FoxWander, post: 5432813, member: 1356"] Back on topic- I'm a big fan of crowbars as weapons. In our campaign we ruled that a crowbar would NOT be an "improvised" club. That rule just doesn't make since. According to RAW, if you found a random, wooden stick (a club has no cost, so that's all it is -a stick. It's just presumed to be in some non-awkward, nice "club" shape), anyway, a random stick that was exactly the size and shape of crowbar would somehow be a better weapon than it's all metal twin, an actual crowbar. :confused: We ruled that while there's no "improvised" penalty for using a crowbar in combat, it's still not made as a weapon so it shouldn't be any better than a club. We made it a light weapon (so you can't use it two-handed) that's essentially the same as a light mace. We then took it one step further and introduced a "weaponized" combat crowbar (The perfect adventurer tool!) that functions as a one-handed weapon, bumps the damage up one die, and can do piercing or bludgeoning damage depending on how you swing it- so essentially the same as a morningstar. The attached picture is collection of some of my character's weapons, but it shows a masterwork version of our combat crowbar. [/QUOTE]

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